Autoguide: 2010 Lexus ES350 vs 2010 Buick LaCrosse
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IMO the cars are very close and it just comes down to personal preference. I still think in a couple of model years the Buicks new (nice IMO) styling will blend in to the crowd just like the 4 year old ES350 has. It happens to most new mainstream cars.
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What irks me is the Buick commercial keep comparing their car to the 2009 ES and not the 2010. While differences are slim, it's still inaccurate. It's April 2010, and they are still showing the 2009 model on TV. If I were Lexus, I'd have some lawyers making some phone calls.
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Splitting hairs on trivial perceptions is not how most car buying decisions are made.
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True, nothing like living with a vehicle for an extended period to understand what it's really like.
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
True, nothing like living with a vehicle for an extended period to understand what it's really like
In some cases, of course, they DO change. I was not impressed with the first ES350s at all, but the 2010's, overall, seem somewhat better, even without a major redesign.
And, sometimes NOT, driving a vehicle every day can actually give you more of a feel for long-term change. If you don't drive a vehicle for a period of time, and then come back and experience it a few years later, the changes (if any) are going to be more noticeable than if you gradually adjusted to them day by day.
Hyundai is another good example of an automaker with vehicles that CAN change one's opinion of them over time. I myself was the ultimate skeptic with Hyundai/Kia vehicles for quite a few years (and, apparantly, justified). But, the fact was that they DID start to make better vehicles, and once I took the time (after about 1998-2000 or so) to start checking some new ones out, I was pleasantly surprised.
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All of us do test drives and give feedback, that's no big deal.
But CL with it's diverse group of owners (both Lexus and non-Lexus vehicles) covering so many models that we are interested in, often report on long term experiences. And many of these owners are enthusiasts that have significant past experiences with other premium cars too, given them a perspective that is especially valuable.
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I agree. I saw the new Regal at the Chicago Auto Show and it is a nice looking car. I'm not sure if it will appeal to the typical Buick buyer, or if it will attract the younger buyer they are after, but it looks like a good effort.
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
But facts are especially useful.
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Back to the main topic, the fact that Buick even makes a car that is seriously competitive with any Lexus is a big accomplishment for Buick. Thumbs up.
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The fact is that this is the second time that Buick has done so. The Enclave was aimed straight at the RX (though the Enclave is somewhat larger, with more seats), and has done very well in the process. It will be very interesting to see what Buick comes up with to compete with the big Lexus LS....though GM's bankrupcy may delay it some or prevent it.
Agreed, it will be interesting to see what Buick does to compete with Lexus beyond the LaCrosse, but we can only speculate at this point.
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Yes, but the fact is the Enclave is a rebodied GMC Acadia with 3rd row seat. It doesn't compete directly with RX (which only has 2 rows of seats). In fact since the Enclave was introduced, RX sales have actually increased with the new gen RX being very successful despite a marginal economy.
Agreed, it will be interesting to see what Buick does to compete with Lexus beyond the LaCrosse, but we can only speculate at this point.
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OK then...let's speculate (admittedly so
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OK then...let's speculate (admittedly so
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If this, to you, though, is getting off-topic and best left for another thread.....fine, no problem.
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I enjoyed the review too. A couple of months ago we traded in a '07 ES350 for a 2010 ES. While shopping we took a long serious look at the LaCrosse, but for a wide variety of reasons ( among them dealer & ownership experience etc.) went with another ES.
The cars are close in what they offer but we liked the evolutionary changes in the 2010 ES. Separately they don't sound like much, but added together they have improved the car IMO.
The cars are close in what they offer but we liked the evolutionary changes in the 2010 ES. Separately they don't sound like much, but added together they have improved the car IMO.