Autoguide: 2010 Lexus ES350 vs 2010 Buick LaCrosse
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I checked out the Regal at the auto show and it is a good looking car, much better looking in GXP trim. It is no Lexus and not even close to it inside. Cute blue interior lights do not make a Lexus interior.
It is very Euro inside, dark, stark and I had no issue with it. There is a reason it will start around 25k or so which is to say don't expect the interior to be class leading. It competes with the TSX and the INsignia battles the Euro Accord in Europe and I find the Accord interior busier but better built.
The exterior is really nice though.
I think MMarshall and myself have been some of Buicks biggest fans for quite a few years now so the new lineup really makes up grin
Not every car needs to be some gotdamn Autobahn wannabe ripper. There is nothing wrong with big, comfy cars.
It is very Euro inside, dark, stark and I had no issue with it. There is a reason it will start around 25k or so which is to say don't expect the interior to be class leading. It competes with the TSX and the INsignia battles the Euro Accord in Europe and I find the Accord interior busier but better built.
The exterior is really nice though.
I think MMarshall and myself have been some of Buicks biggest fans for quite a few years now so the new lineup really makes up grin
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I'll certainly agree on the comfort factor big-time
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Here is a quote from Kelley Blue Book regarding an award they gave (2010 Brand Image Awards) for Lexus interiors. Lexus hasn't gone for the too many buttons look of a lot of other cars. I hope they keep it up.
"Lexus interiors aren't extravagant, plush or boundary-pushing, but the fit, finish and attention to detail deliver long-term allure. Clean, comfortable and simple define the typical Lexus interior, which remains user-friendly even as it continues to host more and more technology."
"Lexus interiors aren't extravagant, plush or boundary-pushing, but the fit, finish and attention to detail deliver long-term allure. Clean, comfortable and simple define the typical Lexus interior, which remains user-friendly even as it continues to host more and more technology."
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I think its great that Buick has made a car that can even be compared to a Lexus...............but who gives a crap.......ITS A BUICK.
For the American to sell cars to import buyers their cars can not just match the Japanese, it has to surpass what is offered by its Japanese competition in every way. Still has not happened
Like I have said in the past, we praise the F student for studying for a test and getting the first B+ he has ever received. Guess what.........the kid is still flunking out. We need long term consistent production of vehicles that surpass the rest of the models in the cars class.
For the American to sell cars to import buyers their cars can not just match the Japanese, it has to surpass what is offered by its Japanese competition in every way. Still has not happened
Like I have said in the past, we praise the F student for studying for a test and getting the first B+ he has ever received. Guess what.........the kid is still flunking out. We need long term consistent production of vehicles that surpass the rest of the models in the cars class.
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For the American to sell cars to import buyers their cars can not just match the Japanese, it has to surpass what is offered by its Japanese competition in every way. Still has not happened.
And, yes, the Taurus.....there's another new domestic that got a lot of attention here on CL.
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Like I have said in the past, we praise the F student for studying for a test and getting the first B+ he has ever received. Guess what.........the kid is still flunking out. We need long term consistent production of vehicles that surpass the rest of the models in the cars class.
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Also, don't forget that the traditional meaning of an "American", "European", or "Asian" car get blurrier and blurrier all the time as the auto industry gets more and more globalized. Companies, literally, now design, produce, and sell their vehicles all over the planet, in scattered facilities everywhere.
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I think its great that Buick has made a car that can even be compared to a Lexus...............but who gives a crap.......ITS A BUICK.
For the American to sell cars to import buyers their cars can not just match the Japanese, it has to surpass what is offered by its Japanese competition in every way. Still has not happened
Like I have said in the past, we praise the F student for studying for a test and getting the first B+ he has ever received. Guess what.........the kid is still flunking out. We need long term consistent production of vehicles that surpass the rest of the models in the cars class.
For the American to sell cars to import buyers their cars can not just match the Japanese, it has to surpass what is offered by its Japanese competition in every way. Still has not happened
Like I have said in the past, we praise the F student for studying for a test and getting the first B+ he has ever received. Guess what.........the kid is still flunking out. We need long term consistent production of vehicles that surpass the rest of the models in the cars class.
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I think its great that Buick has made a car that can even be compared to a Lexus...............but who gives a crap.......ITS A BUICK.
For the American to sell cars to import buyers their cars can not just match the Japanese, it has to surpass what is offered by its Japanese competition in every way. Still has not happened
Like I have said in the past, we praise the F student for studying for a test and getting the first B+ he has ever received. Guess what.........the kid is still flunking out. We need long term consistent production of vehicles that surpass the rest of the models in the cars class.
For the American to sell cars to import buyers their cars can not just match the Japanese, it has to surpass what is offered by its Japanese competition in every way. Still has not happened
Like I have said in the past, we praise the F student for studying for a test and getting the first B+ he has ever received. Guess what.........the kid is still flunking out. We need long term consistent production of vehicles that surpass the rest of the models in the cars class.
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Here is a quote from Kelley Blue Book regarding an award they gave (2010 Brand Image Awards) for Lexus interiors. Lexus hasn't gone for the too many buttons look of a lot of other cars. I hope they keep it up.
"Lexus interiors aren't extravagant, plush or boundary-pushing, but the fit, finish and attention to detail deliver long-term allure. Clean, comfortable and simple define the typical Lexus interior, which remains user-friendly even as it continues to host more and more technology."
"Lexus interiors aren't extravagant, plush or boundary-pushing, but the fit, finish and attention to detail deliver long-term allure. Clean, comfortable and simple define the typical Lexus interior, which remains user-friendly even as it continues to host more and more technology."
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Just returned the 2009 ES350 a few minutes ago, so I only had it for the day. The last ES350 I had was a 2007 and I had that one for over a week (which I commented on after extensive mileage in city/suburban/mountain driving).
I did like the interior of the 2009 considerably more than the 2007, fit/finish/style was excellent and appropriate for a luxury car. Tranny responsiveness was also better than the 2007. Steering feel was a bit numbed by the FWD and torque steer was apparent when accelerating hard (alignment/tire wear did not appear to be a factor and was fine on this car w/ 20K miles). The car looked luxurious in dark metallic gray (truffle mica I think) with black interior. No rattles, buzzing, crashing over bumps, etc., nice and quiet. Ride/handling balance was nice with emphasis more on ride as expected. Engine refinement was excellent and power very good. Overall I enjoyed the car today in mainly fast but busy freeway driving with small amounts of stop and go city driving.
I did like the interior of the 2009 considerably more than the 2007, fit/finish/style was excellent and appropriate for a luxury car. Tranny responsiveness was also better than the 2007. Steering feel was a bit numbed by the FWD and torque steer was apparent when accelerating hard (alignment/tire wear did not appear to be a factor and was fine on this car w/ 20K miles). The car looked luxurious in dark metallic gray (truffle mica I think) with black interior. No rattles, buzzing, crashing over bumps, etc., nice and quiet. Ride/handling balance was nice with emphasis more on ride as expected. Engine refinement was excellent and power very good. Overall I enjoyed the car today in mainly fast but busy freeway driving with small amounts of stop and go city driving.
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Just returned the 2009 ES350 a few minutes ago, so I only had it for the day. The last ES350 I had was a 2007 and I had that one for over a week (which I commented on after extensive mileage in city/suburban/mountain driving).
I did like the interior of the 2009 considerably more than the 2007, fit/finish/style was excellent and appropriate for a luxury car. Tranny responsiveness was also better than the 2007. Steering feel was a bit numbed by the FWD and torque steer was apparent when accelerating hard (alignment/tire wear did not appear to be a factor and was fine on this car w/ 20K miles). The car looked luxurious in dark metallic gray (truffle mica I think) with black interior. No rattles, buzzing, crashing over bumps, etc., nice and quiet. Ride/handling balance was nice with emphasis more on ride as expected. Engine refinement was excellent and power very good. Overall I enjoyed the car today in mainly fast but busy freeway driving with small amounts of stop and go city driving.
I did like the interior of the 2009 considerably more than the 2007, fit/finish/style was excellent and appropriate for a luxury car. Tranny responsiveness was also better than the 2007. Steering feel was a bit numbed by the FWD and torque steer was apparent when accelerating hard (alignment/tire wear did not appear to be a factor and was fine on this car w/ 20K miles). The car looked luxurious in dark metallic gray (truffle mica I think) with black interior. No rattles, buzzing, crashing over bumps, etc., nice and quiet. Ride/handling balance was nice with emphasis more on ride as expected. Engine refinement was excellent and power very good. Overall I enjoyed the car today in mainly fast but busy freeway driving with small amounts of stop and go city driving.
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Glad you enjoyed your drive with it
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Haven't taken the time to drive LaCrosse, although I might later. Personally it's not my kind of car, too big and performance at the low end of scale for my preferences (being sport sedans). I do admire the luxury aspects and style and I know it's the best Buick available today by far.
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