Mercedes-Benz Shooting Break Concept (will be produced)
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Dodge Magnum. No thanks.
ZDX, Crosstour, 5 series GT, now this. How many buyers are there for pricey, wagon-like vehicles?
At least Toyota's on the right track with the 4 cylinder Sienna...
ZDX, Crosstour, 5 series GT, now this. How many buyers are there for pricey, wagon-like vehicles?
At least Toyota's on the right track with the 4 cylinder Sienna...
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funky exterior, amazing interior.
cue mmarshall complaining you can't get to anything under the hood:![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
cue mmarshall complaining you can't get to anything under the hood:
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I agree. I love the interior, styling is worth buying a future CLS on that alone, and the rear end and a few other points leave me interested, but as a whole, the baby R class, MB GT is not my style. I am anxiously awaiting the finished CLS product, as the first gen is one of favorite cars of all time. See how this new "design" translates to production.
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Wait, this has a 3.5L V6 turbo, yet only achieves 306 HP and 273 lb-ft torque? This is a failure IMHO. Much of the competition achieves as much or more power from naturally aspirated V6 engines.
If this an upcoming Benz engine, it will already be a step behind the competition by the time it comes out.
As for the styling, the front is decent, the side profile is decent, and I like the rims. The rear however is hideous
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Overall the exterior lacks cohesiveness and does not look classy at all.
If this is the new styling direction for Benz, it's very disappointing.
Benz was starting to impress with some of their designs in the past few years, and now they go backwards again in design.
The C-Class, E-Class, GLK all look very German and have unique styling that gives each vehicle tons of presence and a strong, classy look.
This just looks like a Hyundai
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I hope the production exterior looks better than that.
The interior is pretty nice, interested to see what the production interior will look like.
If this an upcoming Benz engine, it will already be a step behind the competition by the time it comes out.
As for the styling, the front is decent, the side profile is decent, and I like the rims. The rear however is hideous
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Overall the exterior lacks cohesiveness and does not look classy at all.
If this is the new styling direction for Benz, it's very disappointing.
Benz was starting to impress with some of their designs in the past few years, and now they go backwards again in design.
The C-Class, E-Class, GLK all look very German and have unique styling that gives each vehicle tons of presence and a strong, classy look.
This just looks like a Hyundai
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I hope the production exterior looks better than that.
The interior is pretty nice, interested to see what the production interior will look like.
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Wait, this has a 3.5L V6 turbo, yet only achieves 306 HP and 273 lb-ft torque? This is a failure IMHO. Much of the competition achieves as much or more power from naturally aspirated V6 engines.
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Wait, this has a 3.5L V6 turbo, yet only achieves 306 HP and 273 lb-ft torque? This is a failure IMHO. Much of the competition achieves as much or more power from naturally aspirated V6 engines.
If this an upcoming Benz engine, it will already be a step behind the competition by the time it comes out.
If this an upcoming Benz engine, it will already be a step behind the competition by the time it comes out.
How much more power does one need anyway? Even with this much power any normal car will be plenty fast. Also, keep in mind that this might be just one power setting of the new motor. The same engine might be offered in say three different power variants beginning with perhaps under 300-hp, 306-hp and maybe 350-hp. This is speculation on my part, though.
Turbocharging increases the overall efficiency of a motor. With the current market situation fuel economy is becoming far more important than raw performance. I'll say it again: 306-horsepower are more than sufficient for any car.
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I think Honda might have fired the idiot(s) who designed the Crossturd, and they went to work for MB.
So 306-horsepower are "underwhelming" these days? I don't see how the horsepower output of an engine means "it is behind the competition". Horsepower output of any particular engine has to be optimized for performance, fuel economy and emissions. We know nothing about how this thing performs, but it's safe to say that it is a fast car, relatively fuel efficient and also has a low emissions rating.
Thats just not true. Turbocharging increases performance, but hurts efficiency and emissions, and also drives up the costs of maintenance, reduces reliability, and makes repairs that much more complex and expensive.
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One question I've always had about these vehicles - They may get you to the field quickly and in supreme comfort, but once there you will probably need AWD and a bit of torque . . . . not to mention some pretty nice protective mats in the wayback for slobber, muddy paws, and a brace of bleeding fowl.
. . . oh, right . . . it's like an SUV, a fashion statement with a sporting image, not a real hunting vehicle.
Why did they bother with a hood at all? A coupla screw caps on th hood (with proper iconography) would have done the job.
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Also, many of us like to work on our own cars, and all that plastic just make it much more difficult to get to anything.