Why a 45 series tire on an LS 460L?
04-25-10, 12:55 PM
#18
Lexus Fanatic
Joeb427 is correct. He has brought up an issue I questioned several years ago. Though the LS460 is not a rough ride by any means (and is arguably the quietest-running conventional gas-powered car on the planet) the ride, nevertheless is a little firmer than it needs to be with those tires. The 460 model moved way slightly from the strong comfort-orientation of the 400/430 predecessors. Others have also noticed that...not just Joeb427.
Last edited by mmarshall; 04-25-10 at 08:20 PM.
04-25-10, 10:39 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
Modern suspension isolation techniques are far better than 10 years ago. XF Jags riding on 30 series tires / 20" wheels are example of a decent riding car despite what would have been outlandish tire/wheel setup a decade ago.
The optional setup on the LS is a non-issue since it is optional, considering the 18's are standard with 50 series tires.
The optional setup on the LS is a non-issue since it is optional, considering the 18's are standard with 50 series tires.
04-26-10, 09:12 AM
#21
Lexus Fanatic
With modern suspensions, that's true to an extent, but the LS460 ride, though still tomb-quiet, is not as pillow-smooth as the 400/430 versions. The difference is not large, but noticeable, with either the 50 or 45-series rubber.
I fully understand the position of those who prefer handling over comfort (and there are plenty of cars out there that deliver in that regard), but I also agree with Joeb427.....the LS, as I see it, is not the car to do that with. There are other Lexus models that are more handling-oriented and suited to that role.
But I also need to make something else clear as well.........the present LS ride is not uncomfortable by any means. Overall, it's still one of the world's best luxury cars.
That's why I'm waiting to see how the upcoming Hyundai Equus stacks up in comparison.....Hyundai has proved that they can do excellent vehicles.
Last edited by mmarshall; 04-26-10 at 09:16 AM.
04-26-10, 09:21 AM
#22
Lexus Fanatic
With modern suspensions, that's true to an extent, but the LS460 ride, though still tomb-quiet, is not as pillow-smooth as the 400/430 versions. The difference is not large, but noticeable, with either the 50 or 45-series rubber.
I fully understand the position of those who prefer handling over comfort (and there are plenty of cars out there that deliver in that regard), but I also agree with Joeb427.....the LS, as I see it, is not the car to do that with. There are other Lexus models that are more handling-oriented and suited to that role.
But I also need to make something else clear as well.........the present LS ride is not uncomfortable by any means. Overall, it's still one of the world's best luxury cars. That's why I'm waiting to see how the upcoming Hyundai Equus stacks up in comparison.....Hyundai has proved that they can do excellent vehicles.
I fully understand the position of those who prefer handling over comfort (and there are plenty of cars out there that deliver in that regard), but I also agree with Joeb427.....the LS, as I see it, is not the car to do that with. There are other Lexus models that are more handling-oriented and suited to that role.
But I also need to make something else clear as well.........the present LS ride is not uncomfortable by any means. Overall, it's still one of the world's best luxury cars.
That's why I'm waiting to see how the upcoming Hyundai Equus stacks up in comparison.....Hyundai has proved that they can do excellent vehicles.The LS competes in a close sales race to the Mercedes S-class and the BMW 7 series which have similar tire/wheel combos. The LS is the car to offer the optional, not standard touring package to compete with these cars. Lexus knows its competition, the rest is trivia since the difference isn't large and is generally internet chatter amongst those that don't even buy this class of car. Therefore I agree with Lexus in their choice of options, to not offer it would be considered a demerit in this class of car.
04-26-10, 09:51 AM
#24
Lexus Fanatic
Note: The best-selling car in this class (Mercedes S-class) comes standard tires with 45 series tire (255/45/18). They do offer 19" and 20" wheel options.
BMW comes with 245/50/18 tires and offers 21" wheels with 245/35/21 and 275/30/21 tires.
Last edited by IS-SV; 04-26-10 at 09:56 AM.
04-26-10, 10:05 AM
#25
That could have an impact on ride quality, Michelin being preferred for ride quality in this type of all-season tire.
Note: The best-selling car in this class (S-class) comes standard tires with 45 series tire (255/45/18). They do offer 19" and 20" wheel options.
BMW comes with 245/50/18 tires and offers 21" wheels with 245-35-21 and 275/30/21 tires.
Note: The best-selling car in this class (S-class) comes standard tires with 45 series tire (255/45/18). They do offer 19" and 20" wheel options.
BMW comes with 245/50/18 tires and offers 21" wheels with 245-35-21 and 275/30/21 tires.
On my ES, after a couple of hundred miles,I replaced the crappy Bridgestone EL400 and had a set of Michelin Primacy's installed and the ride over bumps,expansion joints etc was so much better.
I'm glad I have Michelin's instead of Bridgestones on my '10 RX or I would have had the dealer do a swap for Michelins.
275/30-21's on a 750...oh my...
04-26-10, 10:16 AM
#26
Lexus Fanatic
On my ES, after a couple of hundred miles,I replaced the crappy Bridgestone EL400 and had a set of Michelin Primacy's installed and the ride over bumps,expansion joints etc was so much better.
I'm glad I have Michelin's instead of Bridgestones on my '10 RX or I would have had the dealer do a swap for Michelins.
I'm glad I have Michelin's instead of Bridgestones on my '10 RX or I would have had the dealer do a swap for Michelins.
04-26-10, 10:20 AM
#27
I'm all about a soft quiet ride.
My son in law is the same way.He'll probably get a 50 series set of Michelins on the 460L.I believe I have Michelin Lattitudes on the RX.I'm very happy with the ride quality of the tires and RX..
04-26-10, 11:21 AM
#28
HX MXM4 are horrid tires, click the surveys tab, ranked 23rd.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=Pilot+HX+MXM4
Most OEM tires are junk and you can find a lot better ones cheaper. Top grand touring all seasons on tirerack are Michelin Primacy MXV4
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=GTAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=Pilot+HX+MXM4
Most OEM tires are junk and you can find a lot better ones cheaper. Top grand touring all seasons on tirerack are Michelin Primacy MXV4
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=GTAS
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; 04-26-10 at 11:53 AM.
04-26-10, 11:42 AM
#29
Testing vid here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....d&autoModClar=
Tires truly make a difference when it comes to vehicle charecteristics..