Hyundai shows off direct-injected V6, four-cylinder, eight-speed automatic
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We already saw the new Hyundai Verna – known as the Accent in some other parts of the world, including here in the United States – debuted at the Beijing Motor Show, but the Korean automaker had other important new tidbits to show off as well. Specifically, a direct injected version of its Lambda V6 engine, a new direct-injected 1.6-liter four and an eight-speed automatic transmission.
While all three developments are notable for various reasons, we're naturally rather drawn to the new DI V6 engine, which was shown in a longitudinal arrangement. That means we can likely expect to see this updated six in rear-wheel-drive platforms first, such as the Genesis Sedan and Coupe and the new Equus luxury cruiser. It's not a stretch to imagine this mill mated up with the eight-speed auto, either. Power for the DI V6 comes out to only 296 horses, but that's likely an underrated configuration, as it's less than what the Genesis Coupe makes now.
As for the 1.6-liter directed-injected four, you can count on that powerplant showing up in the next-gen Accent and possibly the Elantra as well. Power comes in at 138 ponies, which compares rather well with the 110 horsepower of the current non-direct-injected 1.6-liter four. Hyundai also says the 1.6 is a likely candidate for turbocharging, so that's something else to look forward to.
Click on past the break for a trio of videos showing off the new technology, if only for the stellar voiceover that we think we've heard somewhere before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4cim...layer_embedded
lamda v6 GDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wl6d...layer_embedded
8-speed automatic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fK3Q...layer_embedded
1-6 GDI
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Voice over is hilarious.
Hyundai/Kia's lineup so far is:
3.3 260 hp
3.3 GDI 296-300 hp(just added)
3.5 276 hp(290 hp Cadenza)
3.8 283 hp(Azera)
3.8 290(Genesis)
3.8 306(Genesis Coupe)
maybe Gen coupe will get 3.8 GDI in the future? possibly 360hp+? that would be very sweet.
We already saw the new Hyundai Verna – known as the Accent in some other parts of the world, including here in the United States – debuted at the Beijing Motor Show, but the Korean automaker had other important new tidbits to show off as well. Specifically, a direct injected version of its Lambda V6 engine, a new direct-injected 1.6-liter four and an eight-speed automatic transmission.
While all three developments are notable for various reasons, we're naturally rather drawn to the new DI V6 engine, which was shown in a longitudinal arrangement. That means we can likely expect to see this updated six in rear-wheel-drive platforms first, such as the Genesis Sedan and Coupe and the new Equus luxury cruiser. It's not a stretch to imagine this mill mated up with the eight-speed auto, either. Power for the DI V6 comes out to only 296 horses, but that's likely an underrated configuration, as it's less than what the Genesis Coupe makes now.
As for the 1.6-liter directed-injected four, you can count on that powerplant showing up in the next-gen Accent and possibly the Elantra as well. Power comes in at 138 ponies, which compares rather well with the 110 horsepower of the current non-direct-injected 1.6-liter four. Hyundai also says the 1.6 is a likely candidate for turbocharging, so that's something else to look forward to.
Click on past the break for a trio of videos showing off the new technology, if only for the stellar voiceover that we think we've heard somewhere before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4cim...layer_embedded
lamda v6 GDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wl6d...layer_embedded
8-speed automatic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fK3Q...layer_embedded
1-6 GDI
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Voice over is hilarious.
Hyundai/Kia's lineup so far is:
3.3 260 hp
3.3 GDI 296-300 hp(just added)
3.5 276 hp(290 hp Cadenza)
3.8 283 hp(Azera)
3.8 290(Genesis)
3.8 306(Genesis Coupe)
maybe Gen coupe will get 3.8 GDI in the future? possibly 360hp+? that would be very sweet.
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Seems to me that when you go past 6 gears and start to get into 7, 8, or more, like on some Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, and (now) Hyundai products, you just get into overkill. You might as well just use a CVT, which has an infinite number of gears....and, of course, saves space and weight. The traditional CVT problem, though, has been the ability of the drive-belts to cope with the torque from high-powered engines, though Nissan has been successful with them up to about 300 HP and torque in the high 200's.
At one time, many CVT's had a "rubber-banding" or "motorboating" feel that was weird and took some getting used to, but modern engineering and the use of built-in paddle-shift points has greatly minimized that.
At one time, many CVT's had a "rubber-banding" or "motorboating" feel that was weird and took some getting used to, but modern engineering and the use of built-in paddle-shift points has greatly minimized that.
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If i remember correctly, the 8 speed on the LS was lighter than the previous 6 as well.
Im not saying that they dont have the technology, I just dont think toyota will include these new technologies in their cars because of cost. Do you think we will find direct injected engines or 8 speeds in the next avalon? dont think so.
Toyota has a ton of engine technology just waiting to be released. In the next several years expect to see Toyota engines with new technology, leapfrogging much of the competition, including Hyundai.
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Toyota already uses an 8-speed automatic on both the Lexus LS460 and IS-F. It will probably be on the GS-F too, if that model ever goes into production.
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I know the Lexus division is fine in new tech, Im saying the toyota division will not see any of this for a good few years. The issue is that Hyundai (which is a competitor to toyota, not lexus) has the intention of using 8 speeds in their non tier 1 cars, which is a huge problem for toyota, not lexus.
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Good stuff, but even Hyundai knows the industry leaders like Lexus, Toyota, Mercedes, BMW are not standing still (and haven't shown all the future hardware). Certainly points out how far behind Honda and Acura is.
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Seems to me that when you go past 6 gears and start to get into 7, 8, or more, like on some Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, and (now) Hyundai products, you just get into overkill. You might as well just use a CVT, which has an infinite number of gears....and, of course, saves space and weight. The traditional CVT problem, though, has been the ability of the drive-belts to cope with the torque from high-powered engines, though Nissan has been successful with them up to about 300 HP and torque in the high 200's.
But agreed, opinions vary on this matter, more so in the lower end cars.
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But, I agree, there may be a place for a 7 or 8-speed if Hyundai is going to be designing cars for very high speeds on the German Autobahn. We know that a Hyundai Equus is soon coming, which will be aimed directly at upper-level Lexus models.
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In short 8 speeds is not an overkill with today's advancements.
Example:
The ZF designed new 8-speed automatic transmission passenger cars allows for additional fuel savings of approximately six percent compared with the optimized second generation of 6-speed automatic transmission, with increased torque capacity, while utilizing the same installation space without requiring more components.
But we shouldn't lose sight of the biggest motivator for car makers to implement advanced transmissions (such as the 8 speed example given), it's simply gas mileage, no matter what other marketing hype is given.
Example:
The ZF designed new 8-speed automatic transmission passenger cars allows for additional fuel savings of approximately six percent compared with the optimized second generation of 6-speed automatic transmission, with increased torque capacity, while utilizing the same installation space without requiring more components.
But we shouldn't lose sight of the biggest motivator for car makers to implement advanced transmissions (such as the 8 speed example given), it's simply gas mileage, no matter what other marketing hype is given.
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