Most Boring Cars on the Road! (Lexus RX...really?)
#46
Lexus Fanatic
Mike, you must have not driven over a proper NYC size bump/pothole in the 335 that you've tested. Believe me, the term "pothole explosion" didn't just come out of blue sky.
You need to realize how BMW achieves its combination of good ride quality and good handling (we're mostly talking 3 series here). Unlike most other manufacturers (expecially Lexus) they don't use as many rubber bushings in their suspension/steering systems. Some of their suspension components bolt directly to the subframe without any bushings at all. This allows their cars to have this solid feel, and great feedback, without having to utilize extremely harsh shocks/spring setup, and that allows for good ride quality as well.
However it comes with a price. Once you hit a pothole/bump large enough to put the suspension close to the limit of its travel, a lot of shock gets transferred into the cabin, and thus the term "pothole explosion". I've experienced it quite a few times already in our 335, and it does get pretty violent. And if you hit something that exceeds the suspension travel, you're almost guaranteed to damage your suspension/subframe components.
You need to realize how BMW achieves its combination of good ride quality and good handling (we're mostly talking 3 series here). Unlike most other manufacturers (expecially Lexus) they don't use as many rubber bushings in their suspension/steering systems. Some of their suspension components bolt directly to the subframe without any bushings at all. This allows their cars to have this solid feel, and great feedback, without having to utilize extremely harsh shocks/spring setup, and that allows for good ride quality as well.
However it comes with a price. Once you hit a pothole/bump large enough to put the suspension close to the limit of its travel, a lot of shock gets transferred into the cabin, and thus the term "pothole explosion". I've experienced it quite a few times already in our 335, and it does get pretty violent. And if you hit something that exceeds the suspension travel, you're almost guaranteed to damage your suspension/subframe components.
#47
Lexus Fanatic
No kidding, successful auto makers know these lucrative segments with high volume sales to show for it (RX, ES, Sonata, Accord, new Lacrosse, MDX, etc.).
#48
Lexus Fanatic
#49
Lexus Fanatic
Many of us on CL own premium cars for tens of thousands of miles and I expect them to provide feedback that we can't get elsewhere or from a 30 minute test drive ourselves/myself.
No need to be concerned or appear that you are some kind of "published expert" and who's credentials all of a sudden were slighted, because neither is the case.
Last edited by IS-SV; 05-06-10 at 03:19 PM. Reason: sp
#50
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#52
Lexus Fanatic
Agreed. I never have understood the stigma that car enthusiasts have given the RX by calling it a "soccer-mom" vehicle. Those people, in my view, are just showing tunnel-vision. I see nothing wrong with a vehicle like the RX that combines refinement, luxury, smoothness/quietness, versatility, and a go-in-any-weather AWD system.
#53
No, I don't play soccer!
Agreed. I never have understood the stigma that car enthusiasts have given the RX by calling it a "soccer-mom" vehicle. Those people, in my view, are just showing tunnel-vision. I see nothing wrong with a vehicle like the RX that combines refinement, luxury, smoothness/quietness, versatility, and a go-in-any-weather AWD system.
#54
Lexus Fanatic
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Some of those boring vehicles are a part of the NYC taxi fleet. The way that some of these cab drivers operate these vehicles will make you forget about Space Mountain @ Disney fast
http://nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/safety_...s_in_use.shtml
2009-Ford Crown Victoria Stretch
2009-Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid
2009-Saturn Aura Hybrid
2009-Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid
2009-Volkswagen Jetta Clean Diesel Sedan
2009-Lexus RX400h
2009-Toyota Camry Hybrid
2009-Toyota Prius
2009-Toyota Highlander Hybrid (4WD)
2009-Saturn Vue Greenline
2009-Nissan Altima Hybrid
2009-Ford Escape Hybrid (2WD)
2009-Mercury Mariner Hybrid (AWD)
2010-Ford Crown Victoria Stretch
2010-Volkswagen Jetta Clean Diesel Sedan
2010-Lexus RX450h
2010-Lexus HS250h
2010-Toyota Camry Hybrid
2010-Toyota Prius
2010-Toyota Highlander Hybrid
2010-Nissan Altima Hybrid
2010-Ford Escape Hybrid (2WD)
2010-Ford Fusion Hybrid
2010-Mercury Milan Hybrid
2010-Mercury Mariner Hybrid (AWD)
2009-Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid
2009-Saturn Aura Hybrid
2009-Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid
2009-Volkswagen Jetta Clean Diesel Sedan
2009-Lexus RX400h
2009-Toyota Camry Hybrid
2009-Toyota Prius
2009-Toyota Highlander Hybrid (4WD)
2009-Saturn Vue Greenline
2009-Nissan Altima Hybrid
2009-Ford Escape Hybrid (2WD)
2009-Mercury Mariner Hybrid (AWD)
2010-Ford Crown Victoria Stretch
2010-Volkswagen Jetta Clean Diesel Sedan
2010-Lexus RX450h
2010-Lexus HS250h
2010-Toyota Camry Hybrid
2010-Toyota Prius
2010-Toyota Highlander Hybrid
2010-Nissan Altima Hybrid
2010-Ford Escape Hybrid (2WD)
2010-Ford Fusion Hybrid
2010-Mercury Milan Hybrid
2010-Mercury Mariner Hybrid (AWD)
#55
I only find the RX boring because I see it everywhere in our neighborhood. It's basically the SUV of choice of the wealthy, along with the Mercedes M, BMW X and now Lexus LX 570.
I think Lexus did a great job on the exterior styling of the new LX. It looks far more regal, now. I find it to be an aesthetic upgrade from the 470.
I think Lexus did a great job on the exterior styling of the new LX. It looks far more regal, now. I find it to be an aesthetic upgrade from the 470.
#56
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Some of those boring vehicles are a part of the NYC taxi fleet. The way that some of these cab drivers operate these vehicles will make you forget about Space Mountain @ Disney fast
http://nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/safety_...s_in_use.shtml
http://nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/safety_...s_in_use.shtml
Taxi's come in all shapes and sizes.
#58
Lexus Test Driver
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My GS is boring, I admit it...it doesn't look bad but it's nothing exciting either. Lexus is revered for its plush feel and ride, I hope they never lose their way because that is the reason that keeps me loyal to Lexus. Yes, I love sporty cars and exhilirating rides but comfort is my main priority.
#59
My GS is boring, I admit it...it doesn't look bad but it's nothing exciting either. Lexus is revered for its plush feel and ride, I hope they never lose their way because that is the reason that keeps me loyal to Lexus. Yes, I love sporty cars and exhilirating rides but comfort is my main priority.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/vip...pt-at-vip.html
Tastefully modded GS can look stunning.
#60
Lexus Test Driver
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I don't know man, I look at some of these modded GS's and they look pretty sick to me:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/vip...pt-at-vip.html
Tastefully modded GS can look stunning.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/vip...pt-at-vip.html
Tastefully modded GS can look stunning.
A tastefully modded anything can look stunning.
Let's get back on topic, which is 'the boring Lexus' (mainly the RX)