Review: 2010 Mazda6
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No question that today's automatics are more efficient than in the past. Some of them, especially the twin-clutch automatics and CVTs are stunning in their abilty to stretch a gallon of gas.
One thing, though, that is rather odd, for the "Zoom-Zoom" image, is that Mazda didn't put shift-paddles for the 4's 5-speed automatic on the steering column. Perhaps that is because the 4 doesn't have much "Zoom" to it.
The Mazda6's interior, fit-and-finish-wise, is about equal overall to the Accord's, but has noticeably more plush materials and luxurious feel, espcially in the door panels, seats, and headiner.
The new Legacy's interior has a lot of room, is sharp-looking, especially in the wood-tone high-trim 3.6R Limited version, but uses more hard-plastics than the Mazda6 and doesn't feel quite as plush. Its console is cleaner and less-cluttered because of the new electronic-parking brake. But I can't honestly recommend the new 2010 model (and I say that as a Legacy/Outback fan myself) because of the steering/front suspension issues that affects some of them (not all). I'd wait at least year or two and see if Subaru has resolved them.
One thing, though, that is rather odd, for the "Zoom-Zoom" image, is that Mazda didn't put shift-paddles for the 4's 5-speed automatic on the steering column. Perhaps that is because the 4 doesn't have much "Zoom" to it.
The Mazda6's interior, fit-and-finish-wise, is about equal overall to the Accord's, but has noticeably more plush materials and luxurious feel, espcially in the door panels, seats, and headiner.
The new Legacy's interior has a lot of room, is sharp-looking, especially in the wood-tone high-trim 3.6R Limited version, but uses more hard-plastics than the Mazda6 and doesn't feel quite as plush. Its console is cleaner and less-cluttered because of the new electronic-parking brake. But I can't honestly recommend the new 2010 model (and I say that as a Legacy/Outback fan myself) because of the steering/front suspension issues that affects some of them (not all). I'd wait at least year or two and see if Subaru has resolved them.
From the cars in the class, I've driven I'd say the Mazda is close to 1st, but I'm curious what your take is. One thing you pointed out above that I agree with is that the orange/red lighting is a bit odd and it would have looked better if it were blue or green, but other than that the fit and finish and the materials are hard to beat.
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One thing you pointed out above that I agree with is that the orange/red lighting is a bit odd and it would have looked better if it were blue or green, but other than that the fit and finish and the materials are hard to beat.
The Ford Mustang has what is perhaps the best solution to the problem......a switch that adjusts the dash lights to any one of 125 different colors. One should find a suitable color in there somewhere.
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In the Mazda6's class (lower-priced, mid-size family sedans), I'd rate its interior first for plushness, second to the Chevy Malibu/Saturn Aura twins for physical attractiveness (particularly the Malibu LTZ), second to the Accord in precision-assembly and build quality, ahead of the Sonata in back-seat room, and somewhat behind the Legacy and Camry in interior room. The Camry, years ago the standard-bearer in this class, no longer impresses me....particularly in its poorly-done dash plastics, *****, and trim.
It's too bad more people don't know about the gem that the Mazda6 is, because sales have been extremely low...
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Mazda6 sales might (?) pick up soon with the Camry's PR problems, but the Accord is likely to be the main beneficiary. Ford and Chevy have (or at least had) some factory-incentives going on deals with Toyota trade-ins. Whether the incentives, right now, apply to Mazda products or not (Mazda, of course, is Ford-owned), I don't know. That's something that the Customer-Assistance people will have to update on.
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Next planned reviews: 2011 Ford Fiesta, Hyundai Equus, Jaguar XJ. None have yet been released in the American market, but the Fiesta should be coming in a matter of weeks.
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Great review as usual mmarshall, always appreciated
I think the car looks great but the sales dont really seem that great. What did you think of the quality of the cloth seats?
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I think the car looks great but the sales dont really seem that great. What did you think of the quality of the cloth seats?
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The cloth seats, especially in back, definitely had a softer-then-average feel and plushness for today's sedans, especially lower-price Japanese-designed cars which tend to have overly-firm front and rear seats. Mazda either used more padding than usual, or a softer grade of padding......I think maybe a little of both. The cloth also felt high-quality as well.....though, of course, the real durability test is not a 30-minute test drive, but years of kids jumping up and down, spilling ice cream cones on it, packages laying on it, and the family pets. Some automakers, today, test their seats with machines that bounce and slide weights up and down on them thousands of times to check for wear.
The same seat fabric.....with padding almost as thick, believe it of not, could also be found (in large swaths to boot) on the door panels, and even the sun visors had the same fabric.....with a healthy dose of padding....on them, too. Mazda definitely did not cut corners with this interior....in some ways (not all), it sets the standard for its class.
I was also pleased to see it because a number of recent Mazda interiors have generally not impressed me.
Many "enthusiast" car buyers don't like soft, squishy-feeling seats, because they want the lateral support for hard cornering. Sport-oriented or Recaro-type-type seats are probably not needed for this car, especially the 4-cylinder version, because its handling, while competent, is not particularly sport-oriented, and has body roll.
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I think the car looks great but the sales dont really seem that great. What did you think of the quality of the cloth seats?
The same seat fabric.....with padding almost as thick, believe it of not, could also be found (in large swaths to boot) on the door panels, and even the sun visors had the same fabric.....with a healthy dose of padding....on them, too. Mazda definitely did not cut corners with this interior....in some ways (not all), it sets the standard for its class.
I was also pleased to see it because a number of recent Mazda interiors have generally not impressed me.
Many "enthusiast" car buyers don't like soft, squishy-feeling seats, because they want the lateral support for hard cornering. Sport-oriented or Recaro-type-type seats are probably not needed for this car, especially the 4-cylinder version, because its handling, while competent, is not particularly sport-oriented, and has body roll.
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Thanks for a great review! I was hoping this would be as good as the previous generation (didn't care for the overenthusiastic application of siilver in the last generation with regards to the centre console but otherwise it was well proportioned compared to the slightly bulbous look of this new one). The interior was pretty impressive (I do like the black/beige combo. Very striking imo than a straight bland all-beige). Have you done the 2011 Sonata by any chance? If so, I might've missed it.
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Not everyone, however, agreed with my opinions on the new styling.
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Have you done the 2011 Sonata by any chance? If so, I might've missed it.
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Here's a preview of some of the upcoming changes for the 2011 model:
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows...da6/index.html
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows...da6/index.html
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Here's a preview of some of the upcoming changes for the 2011 model:
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows...da6/index.html
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows...da6/index.html
an improvement inside and out!
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Very nice review Mike. It sadly is still a car overlooked by consumers. I think its brave and very impressive you put it out there its not as sporty as what others say. It sounds like a solid sporty looking car but as you stated not a BMW for less or anything.
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That can also be said, to some extent, by two of its competitors...the Mitsubishi Galant and Kia Optima, though I'd rate the Mazda6 at least a notch or two over the Galant in several areas.....particularly the interior. The Optima seems like a nice car, but I haven't reviewed the latest version.
Mazdas were once VERY BMW-like, though most of the sedans went FWD back in the 1980s, except for the 929 (I had a small GLC sedan with unassisted, non-power steering, and the road feel, even with FWD, was amazing).
The RWD 929 and Millenia, BTW, were both flops in the American market. I test-drove them both when my own Mazda 323 was being serviced, and neither one, IMO, was very impressive. The 929 had way-overboosted steering and a Jerk-O-Matic throttle linkage starting up from rest (you could easily spin the rear tires on a wet surface), and the Millenia, with the Miller-Cycle engine, despite being originally intended for the cancelled luxury Mazda Amati division, just didn't have a very upmarket, premium-car feel...it felt and drove like a Mazda-badged Accord.
When Ford bought the company, that's when the noticeable changes started. Ford took Mazda more mainstream to try and appeal to more people (and, of course, share common platforms to cut costs). In some areas, it worked, and in others, it didn't. Mazda, however, did not entirely give up on sportiness by any means, as shown by the huge success of the Miata and, to a lesser extent, by the limited-production MazdaSpeed sedans. The "Zoom-Zoom" campaign, though, at least IMO, was gimmicky and didn't help the company's sagging image much.
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It sadly is still a car overlooked by consumers.
I think its brave and very impressive you put it out there its not as sporty as what others say. It sounds like a solid sporty looking car but as you stated not a BMW for less or anything.
The RWD 929 and Millenia, BTW, were both flops in the American market. I test-drove them both when my own Mazda 323 was being serviced, and neither one, IMO, was very impressive. The 929 had way-overboosted steering and a Jerk-O-Matic throttle linkage starting up from rest (you could easily spin the rear tires on a wet surface), and the Millenia, with the Miller-Cycle engine, despite being originally intended for the cancelled luxury Mazda Amati division, just didn't have a very upmarket, premium-car feel...it felt and drove like a Mazda-badged Accord.
When Ford bought the company, that's when the noticeable changes started. Ford took Mazda more mainstream to try and appeal to more people (and, of course, share common platforms to cut costs). In some areas, it worked, and in others, it didn't. Mazda, however, did not entirely give up on sportiness by any means, as shown by the huge success of the Miata and, to a lesser extent, by the limited-production MazdaSpeed sedans. The "Zoom-Zoom" campaign, though, at least IMO, was gimmicky and didn't help the company's sagging image much.
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