Honda Boss: Next Insight Will Beat Prius MPG
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Of course, with small hybrids, gas mileage is usually the name of the game, so, in that sense, yes, they did miss at least one major point.
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Not really. The Insight, IMO, does have better build materials and road manners than the 3Gen Prius. What the Insight does NOT have is a decent back seat or as refined/efficient a drivetrain.
Of course, with small hybrids, gas mileage is usually the name of the game, so, in that sense, yes, they did miss at least one major point.
Of course, with small hybrids, gas mileage is usually the name of the game, so, in that sense, yes, they did miss at least one major point.
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I can't agree the Insight has better materials than the Prius. The Insight feels downright cheap and nasty inside compared to the Prius and the Prius isn't by any means luxurious.
Again I (and others) fully expected the current Insight to kick the Prius in the head. Honda had ten years to get it together in regards to hybrids. I honestly thought a Honda hybrid would be BETTER than a Toyota one.
Instead Honda gives us a Fit based Insight that looks like a Prius and gets Lexus HS MPG and pawns it off as some "hybrid for everyone" crap like a Prius was not affordable or something.
I am going to compile all the crap Honda/Acura has spouted off and make a thread. SHould be funny
Again I (and others) fully expected the current Insight to kick the Prius in the head. Honda had ten years to get it together in regards to hybrids. I honestly thought a Honda hybrid would be BETTER than a Toyota one.
Instead Honda gives us a Fit based Insight that looks like a Prius and gets Lexus HS MPG and pawns it off as some "hybrid for everyone" crap like a Prius was not affordable or something.
I am going to compile all the crap Honda/Acura has spouted off and make a thread. SHould be funny
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Honda better aim high (and I don't mean 51mpg combined). Toyota isn't standing still with the Prius.... I'm just saying...
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Not really. The Insight, IMO, does have better build materials and road manners than the 3Gen Prius. What the Insight does NOT have is a decent back seat or as refined/efficient a drivetrain.
Of course, with small hybrids, gas mileage is usually the name of the game, so, in that sense, yes, they did miss at least one major point.
Of course, with small hybrids, gas mileage is usually the name of the game, so, in that sense, yes, they did miss at least one major point.
I feel bad for Honda. They used to be one of my favorite manufactures back in 2000s. S2000, NSX, Prelude, and Type R. They have turned everything around and now they are just a complete joke.
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I am surprised that you said that. I've been in both and I found 3Gen Prius has superior build quality over the Insight.
I feel bad for Honda. They used to be one of my favorite manufactures back in 2000s. S2000, NSX, Prelude, and Type R. They have turned everything around and now they are just a complete joke.
I feel bad for Honda. They used to be one of my favorite manufactures back in 2000s. S2000, NSX, Prelude, and Type R. They have turned everything around and now they are just a complete joke.
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Complete joke as in:
-yapping their mouths telling us what is coming and nothing of interest comes
-canceling all sports cars
-no true hybrid technology (IMA is ASSIST hell it says ASSIST)
-vehicles are ugly as sin
-old engines from the 1930s
-no technology (Buick and Ford are laughing)
-5 speed automatics
-Hyundai has V8s before them
-Ridgeline is a joke
-offering Crossturds as X6 knockoffs
-CEO disses the LFA V-10 yet they had a V-10 mule as well
-the insight failed miserably
-they went from leaders to not even being good followers
-they used to do more with less, now they do less with more
-abandoning all us fans of them in the 80s/90s for oversize Pilots
-can't even make sales gains on all the bad Toyota news
-Honda owns Acura and Acura is an even uglier, bigger joke
-yapping their mouths telling us what is coming and nothing of interest comes
-canceling all sports cars
-no true hybrid technology (IMA is ASSIST hell it says ASSIST)
-vehicles are ugly as sin
-old engines from the 1930s
-no technology (Buick and Ford are laughing)
-5 speed automatics
-Hyundai has V8s before them
-Ridgeline is a joke
-offering Crossturds as X6 knockoffs
-CEO disses the LFA V-10 yet they had a V-10 mule as well
-the insight failed miserably
-they went from leaders to not even being good followers
-they used to do more with less, now they do less with more
-abandoning all us fans of them in the 80s/90s for oversize Pilots
-can't even make sales gains on all the bad Toyota news
-Honda owns Acura and Acura is an even uglier, bigger joke
Last edited by LexFather; 06-07-10 at 11:01 AM.
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Fun to drive?! Which ones in current their line up are fun to drive? Impress me.
If your definition of "fun" is having a pleasure from scaring the bejesus out of other motorists every time they see your car, then sure.
If your definition of "fun" is having a pleasure from scaring the bejesus out of other motorists every time they see your car, then sure.
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Also speaking in term of look for Honda here not Acura .. is definitely unimpressive, but beside the Venza I do think any Toyota as a looker either .. so they both about the same to me in term of look.
Last edited by wmb0000; 06-07-10 at 01:16 PM.
#41
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I did a full review on both cars, and found the 3Gen Prius quite lacking in sheet metal and interior-trim solidness, especially compared the 2Gen model it replaced. On the other hand, the Prius, however, both 2Gen and 3Gen, clearly outdoes the Insight in back-seat room and powertrain engineering/refinement. My opinion stands on both issues, but I welcome other opinions, too....you are free to disagree with it.
#43
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As said by Stig: "I've been in both and I found 3Gen Prius has superior build quality over the Insight."
Same here, and I've done plenty of seat time in my friend's new Prius, it's no surprise to me why it's by far the best selling hybrid.
The solidness is sound and competitive for cars in this price range, interior is ok too. None of us have any way to measure sheet metal thickness, so I won't waste time on such a meaningless subjective observation.
The 3rd gen Prius is a huge improvement and the people that actually buy this kind of car know it.
Same here, and I've done plenty of seat time in my friend's new Prius, it's no surprise to me why it's by far the best selling hybrid.
The solidness is sound and competitive for cars in this price range, interior is ok too. None of us have any way to measure sheet metal thickness, so I won't waste time on such a meaningless subjective observation.
The 3rd gen Prius is a huge improvement and the people that actually buy this kind of car know it.
Last edited by IS-SV; 06-07-10 at 01:45 PM.
#44
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Of course, to be fair (and objective), interior quality is not necessarily with you buy a small hybrid for, but mileage and drivetrain engineering. And, there, it is no comparison. You won't hear any arguements from me on that one.....the Prius drivetrain kicks the Insight's butt....and so does is rear seat.
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-07-10 at 01:47 PM.
#45
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True, but you can often gauge (no pun intended) its solidness by how easy it bends. And, there, I was defnitely not impressed.