Would you pay 17k for a Honda Fit hybrid???
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Not quite. Nationwide, it's still a little too early to tell with the Lexus HS250...and, in this area, it doesn't seem to be doing that well. It's getting a lot of competition from the other two entry-level Lexus models (IS and ES), though, of course, the HS trumps them both in gas mileage.
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The hybrid market is a finicky one, just making something a "hybrid' does not equate to success. Honda still hasn't figured out something rather simple. People seemingly don't want cheap hybrids. They also couldn't figure out people didn't want the Accord hybrid.
You see Honda hasn't invested in hybrids and offers the half-assed IMA system. Since Toyota completely trumps them in hybrids they are trying to market them as "hybrids for everyone" and aim at the cheaper market.
Its not that they want them for everyone its just the system is much cheaper to produce than the hybrid synergy drive system so the cars should be cheaper.
I haven't seen any Honda fans ask for more IMA cars. They have asked for real hybrids and they have asked for sportier cars and stop the ugly and add some damn tech like bluetooth etc. They never asked for a Fit hybrid.
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You see Honda hasn't invested in hybrids and offers the half-assed IMA system. Since Toyota completely trumps them in hybrids they are trying to market them as "hybrids for everyone" and aim at the cheaper market.
Its not that they want them for everyone its just the system is much cheaper to produce than the hybrid synergy drive system so the cars should be cheaper.
I haven't seen any Honda fans ask for more IMA cars. They have asked for real hybrids and they have asked for sportier cars and stop the ugly and add some damn tech like bluetooth etc. They never asked for a Fit hybrid.![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
Its not that they want them for everyone its just the system is much cheaper to produce than the hybrid synergy drive system so the cars should be cheaper.
I haven't seen any Honda fans ask for more IMA cars. They have asked for real hybrids and they have asked for sportier cars and stop the ugly and add some damn tech like bluetooth etc. They never asked for a Fit hybrid.
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I would consider it since I am looking for a DD.
If the hybrid only gets 5 or so miles above a regular one, than no. If the car gets in an accident, it would probably be more of a headache since it's a hybrid. Also, does hybrid come in stick. Anyhow, it'll give the Prius a run for it's money if it does get 40+ MPG.
If the hybrid only gets 5 or so miles above a regular one, than no. If the car gets in an accident, it would probably be more of a headache since it's a hybrid. Also, does hybrid come in stick. Anyhow, it'll give the Prius a run for it's money if it does get 40+ MPG.
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Maybe slightly off-topic, Mike, but I still think that, in general, except for the VW TDIs, the small-diesel market in the U.S. is being neglected because of the emphasis on hybrids. Diesels often get the same (or better) mileage as some hybrids.....with a lot less complexity and cost in the design.
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Maybe slightly off-topic, Mike, but I still think that, in general, except for the VW TDIs, the small-diesel market in the U.S. is being neglected because of the emphasis on hybrids. Diesels often get the same (or better) mileage as some hybrids.....with a lot less complexity and cost in the design.
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Low-sulfur Diesel fuel (the only kind allowed by the EPA now for regular street diesels) varies quite a bit in price from station to station. At some stations, it runs more than 91-93 octane gas, at others, less.
Hybrids DO, though, in some places, have at least one advantage over small diesels. Hybrid-friendly HOV rush-hour regulations on busy freeways, that allow hybrid drivers to skip some of the gridlock, generally do not extend to diesels. They should, IMO, but generally do not.
Hybrids DO, though, in some places, have at least one advantage over small diesels. Hybrid-friendly HOV rush-hour regulations on busy freeways, that allow hybrid drivers to skip some of the gridlock, generally do not extend to diesels. They should, IMO, but generally do not.
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An additional factor, though, with a hybrid, as I indicated above in my reply to bagwell, is something that can't necessarily be measured in dollars and cents....the saving of a lot of frustration and wear/tear on the driver's nerves by being able to freely use HOV lanes and not creeping along in gridlock.
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