International Engine of the Year
06-28-10, 07:15 AM
#1
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International Engine of the Year
It is just amazing that the 3.0 TT BMW engine is still being awarded/recognized as one of the "International Engine of the Year", with all the problems and failures it has experienced. Also the fact that BMW itself is fazing it out because they can not fix it. Talk about REDICULOUS!
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/merce...amg-v8#3112986
Koz
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/merce...amg-v8#3112986
Koz
06-28-10, 07:25 AM
#3
It is just amazing that the 3.0 TT BMW engine is still being awarded/recognized as one of the "International Engine of the Year", with all the problems and failures it has experienced. Also the fact that BMW itself is fazing it out because they can not fix it. Talk about REDICULOUS!
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/merce...amg-v8#3112986
Koz
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/merce...amg-v8#3112986
Koz
The N54 is a fantastic engine when it comes to performance, fuel economy, sound, smoothness & brings a grin to my face every time it leaves other cars in the dust with not much effort
Last edited by DASHOCKER; 06-28-10 at 07:30 AM.
06-28-10, 07:29 AM
#4
Here is a better link..
http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyea...s_10/25_3.html
http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyea...s_10/25_3.html
BMW 3-litre DI Twin-Turbo
“BMW’s holdout in-line six is still the gold standard
for power delivery and response” Jason Cammisa, Automobile Magazine
Last year saw BMW dominate the top two positions in this category – a feat it has repeated this year with the same contenders. Again, the 3-litre DI twin turbo has the edge on its diesel sibling, with its classic in-line six configuration charming the jury.
As John Carey from Wheels Magazine stated, “Punching well above its capacity division, this downsizing trendsetter hasn’t been bettered in my opinion. Great power delivery, superb refinement and not too thirsty.”
Offering 306bhp from its light alloy and magnesium straight-six engine, the engine can accelerate a 1-Series coupe from zero to 62mph in 5.3 seconds before going on to an electronically limited top speed of 155mph. Peak torque of 400Nm from just 1,300rpm through to 5,000rpm ensures smooth yet rapid progress and in-gear flexibility.
Jason Cammisa, West Coast editor of Automobile Magazine in the USA, was similarly impressed: “With refinement that no V6 engine can match, BMW’s holdout in-line six is still the gold standard for power delivery and response – not to mention efficiency.”
Courtesy of high-precision direct injection for the most efficient burn of fuel mix, and Bi-VANOS variable valve technology, combined with lightweight engineering principles, the engine ensures frugal motoring while maintaining its top-end performance. The 2,979cc engine posts a 9.2 l/100km (30.7mpg) figure on the combined cycle and a CO2 emissions figure of 220g/km.
This engine, and indeed its diesel equivalent, have beaten off some stiff competition, including the popular 3-litre diesel unit favoured by Jaguar, Ford, Land Rover and PSA; Audi’s venerable 3-litre diesel; and Porsche’s characterful 2.9-litre flat-six. Such company really shows the quality of this powerplant.
One of Turkey’s leading automotive journalists, Halit Bolkan, said that this BMW engine is “a typical Munich-made miracle”
Results
points
1. BMW 3-litre DI Twin Turbo (135i, 335i, 535i, X5 35i, X6 35i, Z4) 332
2. BMW Diesel 3-litre Twin Turbo (335d, 635d, X3 35d, X5 40d, 740d) 278
3. Audi 3-litre DI Supercharged (S4, S5) 125
“BMW’s holdout in-line six is still the gold standard
for power delivery and response” Jason Cammisa, Automobile Magazine
Last year saw BMW dominate the top two positions in this category – a feat it has repeated this year with the same contenders. Again, the 3-litre DI twin turbo has the edge on its diesel sibling, with its classic in-line six configuration charming the jury.
As John Carey from Wheels Magazine stated, “Punching well above its capacity division, this downsizing trendsetter hasn’t been bettered in my opinion. Great power delivery, superb refinement and not too thirsty.”
Offering 306bhp from its light alloy and magnesium straight-six engine, the engine can accelerate a 1-Series coupe from zero to 62mph in 5.3 seconds before going on to an electronically limited top speed of 155mph. Peak torque of 400Nm from just 1,300rpm through to 5,000rpm ensures smooth yet rapid progress and in-gear flexibility.
Jason Cammisa, West Coast editor of Automobile Magazine in the USA, was similarly impressed: “With refinement that no V6 engine can match, BMW’s holdout in-line six is still the gold standard for power delivery and response – not to mention efficiency.”
Courtesy of high-precision direct injection for the most efficient burn of fuel mix, and Bi-VANOS variable valve technology, combined with lightweight engineering principles, the engine ensures frugal motoring while maintaining its top-end performance. The 2,979cc engine posts a 9.2 l/100km (30.7mpg) figure on the combined cycle and a CO2 emissions figure of 220g/km.
This engine, and indeed its diesel equivalent, have beaten off some stiff competition, including the popular 3-litre diesel unit favoured by Jaguar, Ford, Land Rover and PSA; Audi’s venerable 3-litre diesel; and Porsche’s characterful 2.9-litre flat-six. Such company really shows the quality of this powerplant.
One of Turkey’s leading automotive journalists, Halit Bolkan, said that this BMW engine is “a typical Munich-made miracle”
Results
points
1. BMW 3-litre DI Twin Turbo (135i, 335i, 535i, X5 35i, X6 35i, Z4) 332
2. BMW Diesel 3-litre Twin Turbo (335d, 635d, X3 35d, X5 40d, 740d) 278
3. Audi 3-litre DI Supercharged (S4, S5) 125
Last edited by DASHOCKER; 06-28-10 at 07:32 AM.
06-28-10, 07:34 AM
#5
There are no problems with the engine. The HPFP which is made by Siemens & not BMW has been an issue with some X35 vehicles. A small percentage (yes this is the case) of owners have been affected.. I'm on my second 335 with the current one having some underhood mods & have never had an issue with the HPFP.
The N54 is a fantastic engine when it comes to performance, fuel economy, sound, smoothness & brings a grin to my face every time it leaves other cars in the dust with not much effort
The N54 is a fantastic engine when it comes to performance, fuel economy, sound, smoothness & brings a grin to my face every time it leaves other cars in the dust with not much effort
Got it.
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06-28-10, 08:51 AM
#8
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Definitely one of my favorites....as is the 335i that goes with it.Another powerplant that is probably deserving of the award (and another one of my favorites) is the VW/Audi 2.0L Turbo.
06-28-10, 09:02 AM
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There are no problems with the engine. The HPFP which is made by Siemens & not BMW has been an issue with some X35 vehicles. A small percentage (yes this is the case) of owners have been affected.. I'm on my second 335 with the current one having some underhood mods & have never had an issue with the HPFP.
The N54 is a fantastic engine when it comes to performance, fuel economy, sound, smoothness & brings a grin to my face every time it leaves other cars in the dust with not much effort
The N54 is a fantastic engine when it comes to performance, fuel economy, sound, smoothness & brings a grin to my face every time it leaves other cars in the dust with not much effort
Koz
06-28-10, 09:11 AM
#12
Let’s see, BMW is on their 4th redesigned HPFP (Regardless of who makes it for them) and the 2010 models are still experiencing these failures. Independent surveys’ (Not BMW) are showing an approx 34% failure rate and a 20% failure rate for a replacement pump. I'm not an expert on what is considered a "Small Percentage" but I don't think these numbers would be considered small. Also from what I'm being told by friends that own these engines, the injectors are failing at an even higher rate. Two of my friends have thrown in the towel and cut their loses and got rid of them. They refused to be driving around with a vehicle that can go into limp mode at any time (And have). You can believe whatever you want to but you are only fooling yourself!
Koz
Koz
06-28-10, 09:15 AM
#13
regarding the HPFP problem, here's how i think about it. it's definitely a bmw problem, thinking it as some other company's problem is just silly. it's under the hood of a bmw, bmw signed off on it, bmw is putting warranty on it, it's bmw problem. you go to mcdonald and get a burger and the patty is bad, you go back to the mcdonald cashier. they are not going to send you back to the company that makes the patty. very simple. thinking it otherwise is just in plain denial
on the other hand, if this is about the engine (i am not knowledgeable to say), should the HPFP be considered as part of the engine? or it's considered separate? if it's separate, then one can say that the engine itself is indeed very strong and powerful, it's just the stuff around it that's flawed
on the other hand, if this is about the engine (i am not knowledgeable to say), should the HPFP be considered as part of the engine? or it's considered separate? if it's separate, then one can say that the engine itself is indeed very strong and powerful, it's just the stuff around it that's flawed
06-28-10, 09:20 AM
#14
let's face it, the HPFP has problems, and it's not only a small percentage of people having that problem. a lot of owners (just like you) have spoken. at the same time, i also know people with a lot of miles and no issue. it's hit and miss (much like most other bmw products), but discounting the problem or diluting it to other company sound quite silly.
but like i said in previous post, the problem is there, whether it's "part of the engine" is another. if it's not considered part of the engine (for this international engine of the year award), then the problem has no case here to discount the engine
06-28-10, 09:25 AM
#15
regarding the HPFP problem, here's how i think about it. it's definitely a bmw problem, thinking it as some other company's problem is just silly. it's under the hood of a bmw, bmw signed off on it, bmw is putting warranty on it, it's bmw problem. you go to mcdonald and get a burger and the patty is bad, you go back to the mcdonald cashier. they are not going to send you back to the company that makes the patty. very simple. thinking it otherwise is just in plain denial
on the other hand, if this is about the engine (i am not knowledgeable to say), should the HPFP be considered as part of the engine? or it's considered separate? if it's separate, then one can say that the engine itself is indeed very strong and powerful, it's just the stuff around it that's flawed
on the other hand, if this is about the engine (i am not knowledgeable to say), should the HPFP be considered as part of the engine? or it's considered separate? if it's separate, then one can say that the engine itself is indeed very strong and powerful, it's just the stuff around it that's flawed