RA40

iTrader: (6)

This will be interesting. Might well push Hyundai up the ladder of consumers minds. They are already making good strides in driver recognition-perception. That is barring some of their comparisons to other makers which we see from time to time in ads.

How do their other cars fare if? If so, a 100K torture test from C&D may not be eventful other than a confirmation Hyundai is building a quality car and more so as they progress. .

mmarshall

The cratered roads alone in Michigan, especially in winter/spring during snowmelt, are a torture test, even over and above C&D's hard, aggressive driving. And C&D, of course, is headquarted in Ann Arbor.

97-SC300

iTrader: (17)

I think a better test would be 10 years and 200k miles.... Over time all the rubber components deteriorate and that's whenevery car's true weakness is shown.

You guys remember that Yaris with 350k+ miles on it? I wonder how many of those will be able to run with that kind of miles in 10 years without lots of maintanance.

mmarshall

Rubber belts and hoses should probably be replaced every 6-7 years or so anyway, regardless of mileage. Coolant-hose deterioration often starts on the inside, where it is not noticeable by just looking at it from the outside. Same with rubber engine-drive-belts.

Exterior rubber weatherstrippping/seals can usually be visually inspected......and replaced as needed.

I8ABMR

I dont remember seeing any of my friends ever go to 200k on their car.

mmarshall

Yes, people do it, for various reasons. Some just can't afford to replace them. Others can, but choose not to....and save their money for other things. Some, like my late father with his 60's-vintage Plymouth Barracudas, just get addicted to one model car like heroin or crack. Others take the attitude that they will keep the car until it completely drops, so they can get every last ounce of life out of it.....even if it becomes a money pit or fails to pass state inspection. Some just don't LIKE new cars...and there are indeed a lot of fugly new vehicles out there in today's market.

IS-SV

A majority of CL posters and American car owners don't own cars in the 200K range, no surprise considering vast middle class+.

I've known several people that owned Japanese cars into the high 100's.

-J-P-L-

There's quite a bit of CL members with over 200K, even over 300K.
Just check out the SC high mileage thread. High mileage is pretty common among early SC, ES, & LS models.

My SC400 had 253,000 miles when I traded it and the original engine and transmission were in great shape.

LexFather

I think a 200k review would have been really impressive. 100k is really normal to a lot of Americans.

I8ABMR

considering their normal long term reviews only run 40k this is a massive test. No other way to look at it. Magazines dont usually ever do tests this long.

LexFather

There is another way to look at it. 100k is NOTHING in a luxury vehicle today. There have been many examples of magazines going past the 40k period. I honestly don't expect much to fail on the Genesis during its first 100k.

Here is impressive;

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evol...urcielago.html

122,000 miles in a Lamborghini Murcielago. It was bought with 64 on the odometer. That is impressive.

Its great that they are doing a 100k review on the Genesis but if they wanted to really blow me away, 200k would have been special.

IS-SV

Impressive mileage for sure, I know we have a lot a owners with high mileage.

But as I said earlier, a majority of CL posters and American car owners keep cars for under 200k miles.

mmarshall

A lot of vehicles, even with good care, can't go to 200K. 150K is considered the average design life of a number of new vehicles today, although some do go 200K and even 300K. A number of Hondas and Toyotas, traditionally, have done better than the average vehicle. Toyota drivetrains, in particular, have been durable.......especially with the older pickups.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

the VAST majority of people sell cars before 100k. while 100k is no 'record breaking' odometer reading, it's plenty of miles to see if a car is reliable or not. MOST cars have SOMETHING happen during 4 rotations of the planet! even if the genesis is just 'average' that will still be great news for them in terms of credibility.

RA40

iTrader: (6)

For owners like me, replacement thoughts don't begin till about 180-225K miles. If it will hang longer, I'll milk it. We average 11-12K miles typically and a car is projected to last 15-17 years. Then I enjoy driving older cars anyway so keeping them for extended periods is my goal. For most, they will want a fresh ride somewhere at 45-60K miles.