CRX vs. CRZzzzzzz - insideline Comparo
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The CRX was lightweight, sporty, rev happy and handled excellently (although with short wheelbase its rear end was a little too happy).
This new car is a lazy, heavy pig, with 1970ies style dummy beam rear suspension. Its pathetic.
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It is not a modern CRX. It just prostitutes on CRX name, and tries to look somewhat like this iconic car.
The CRX was lightweight, sporty, rev happy and handled excellently (although with short wheelbase its rear end was a little too happy).
This new car is a lazy, heavy pig, with 1970ies style dummy beam rear suspension. Its pathetic.
The CRX was lightweight, sporty, rev happy and handled excellently (although with short wheelbase its rear end was a little too happy).
This new car is a lazy, heavy pig, with 1970ies style dummy beam rear suspension. Its pathetic.
Not a 2 door INsight in drag with a name Acura should use.
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Originally Posted by I8ABMR
The CRZ is a modern CRX. The opinion of this writer doesnt mean much to me. We cant have the old CRX back....ever. Times, safety regulations, and people have changed.
And, even with 1980's vintage cars, I'd NEVER want to go back to carburators....ever again. They were a PITA.
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I absolutely loved my 2nd gen Si. As inevitable as it may be, a comparison to the CRZ just isn't gonna be fair.
Could a true, modern incarnation of the CRX be possible? Maybe, with the right design team, and corporate cooperation from the higher ups at Honda, but I doubt it would ever happen. Especially not in a hybrid, with current technology, and todays auto standards.
Mazda did OK with the 3rd gen Miata, but it's still missing that bare bones, purpose built feel of the previous cars. When Lotus first came out with the Elise, it did a great job of capturing the feel of the old Elan's and Europa's, but like those cars, it's not something you really want to live with on a day to day basis.
The CRZ, unfortunately, is a product of corporate responsibility, a need to serve EPA regulations, and safety implemented weight gain. No matter how good the car may be, it will never have the spirit that the CRX did. Automakers can't easily get away with building a go-kart for the street these days.
Of course, without the full-cage, I'm not sure I'd want to get into a major accident in my old 88 Si, either.... :lol:
Could a true, modern incarnation of the CRX be possible? Maybe, with the right design team, and corporate cooperation from the higher ups at Honda, but I doubt it would ever happen. Especially not in a hybrid, with current technology, and todays auto standards.
Mazda did OK with the 3rd gen Miata, but it's still missing that bare bones, purpose built feel of the previous cars. When Lotus first came out with the Elise, it did a great job of capturing the feel of the old Elan's and Europa's, but like those cars, it's not something you really want to live with on a day to day basis.
The CRZ, unfortunately, is a product of corporate responsibility, a need to serve EPA regulations, and safety implemented weight gain. No matter how good the car may be, it will never have the spirit that the CRX did. Automakers can't easily get away with building a go-kart for the street these days.
Of course, without the full-cage, I'm not sure I'd want to get into a major accident in my old 88 Si, either.... :lol:
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I have going to say this again in this thread.
Dear honda executives (aka bean counters), please go f yourself for screwing the great company and giving as worthless cars.
Dear honda executives (aka bean counters), please go f yourself for screwing the great company and giving as worthless cars.
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what other hybrid comes with a 6 speed manual transmission( just saw the segment on motor week)??????? None that I can think of. I watched the segment about this car on motor week and they seem to love the car. Like I said before, this is all subjective. One person may think its a bit boring while other will celebrate the vehicle as a fresh new start in this fresh new segment. I think this little car would be awesome as a commuting vehicle. I have seen tuned versions in Modified magazine that seem do do pretty well on the track......for a hybrid.
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what other hybrid comes with a 6 speed manual transmission( just saw the segment on motor week)??????? None that I can think of. I watched the segment about this car on motor week and they seem to love the car. Like I said before, this is all subjective. One person may think its a bit boring while other will celebrate the vehicle as a fresh new start in this fresh new segment. I think this little car would be awesome as a commuting vehicle. I have seen tuned versions in Modified magazine that seem do do pretty well on the track......for a hybrid.
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for the same reason millions of people around the world drive manuals for. To make it more fun and bearable to have a car with that little power. There is no way I would be able to deal with a car with 122 hp and an automatic transmission. In terms of track driving its well known that driving an under powered car on a track can be just as much fun as some hp monsters. I say lets embrace the future of entry level hybrid sport. The CRZ is a pretty decent start imho
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Originally Posted by STIG
Dear honda executives (aka bean counters), please go f yourself
The CR-Z still looks like an interesting product to me. I'm probably going to check it out.
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I watched a full segment on motor week last night and they loved the car. They went on and on about its great handling, style, and economy. They did mention that the fuel economy wasnt as good as the rest of the hybrids but said there is always compromise when buying a car. I am not saying its a Pruis with Ferrari handling, but its awesome to have some options. Especially when they are relatively sporty
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