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Old 07-24-10 | 04:33 PM
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After being dominated by Lexus for the past decade, the top spot in the U.S. luxury market is about to be taken over by Mercedes-Benz. While Lexus jumped 19% in deliveries during the first half of this year, Mercedes-Benz increased 25%. Lexus is in real danger of seeing their 2.1% market share dip to 1.98, as BMW, the world’s leading luxury auto, also increases U.S. market share.

“It’s very likely Mercedes-Benz may take over the lead this year,” said Jesse Toprak, vice president of industry trends for researcher Truecar.com in Santa Monica, California. “The cumulative impact of all the recalls hasn’t really shown up yet. It’s more likely to be seen in the second half.”
While there is tremendous opportunity here for the German manufacturers to overtake the U.S. market, BMW doesn’t like to give all the credit to Toyota’s recall woes. Markus Sagemann of BMW, points out the freshness of the BMW lineup, as the company will have replaced 60% of its models by 20
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Old 07-24-10 | 06:02 PM
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The press made the same stories last year about BMW ... we all know who came out on top.
Old 07-24-10 | 06:17 PM
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With the issues at Lexus this year it would not surprise me at all.
Old 07-24-10 | 06:31 PM
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Is it really that important who takes the crown? Not to me.
Old 07-24-10 | 08:01 PM
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Really, I hope that Lexus does fall to 2nd, so they'll wake up and really strive again for the "endless pursuit for perfection" because somewhere in the last six years or so they've strayed from that ambition. I think that being "first" gets you fat and lazy, so maybe this will wake Toyota up.
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Yeah, Lexus got too comfortable. This should be a wake up call.
Old 07-24-10 | 08:48 PM
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Confucious say "man who sit on top of high mountain get covered with snow and then rolls off in giant ball of snow"
Old 07-24-10 | 09:38 PM
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IMHO, the number 1 sport should hopefully always rotate every couple of years. In sports this is good for competition. So is it good for business and the consumer will benefit with a broader range of good products to choose from.
Old 07-24-10 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TwiBlueG35
Is it really that important who takes the crown? Not to me.
Lexus has publically stated many times while they are happy to have the #1 crown they are not chasing it. I don't think Lexus even advertises the point at all.

It would be a win BMW or Benz would want as I think they would leverage it in ads. Look at how Audi advertising "we are growing faster than Lexus, BMW, Benz". Well duh, Audi is increases b/c they were so far behind and Lexus, BMW, Benz still sells 3 times as many vehicles.

Lexus has refreshes but their vehicles are all in MMCs except the RX. The HS is struggling. The SC is in its last year for now. Then we have what 8 or 9 months of negative press in regards to floormats, recalls, recalls, accidents etc?

Quite frankly its a testament to Lexus as they have weathered this "Perfect Storm" pretty well. I would have though sales would plummet but they are still in the hunt.

We shall see.
Old 07-25-10 | 12:22 AM
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We shall see since it's too early to say, for those that actually care.
Old 07-25-10 | 12:25 AM
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A new IS would have been a shot in the arm. But I agree, considering there hasn't been any recent new products AND the whole recall fiasco, they are doing pretty darn well with sales. I predict an upcoming model year in the very near future where most of their cars will be redone and sales will be on fire.
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Merc has the new E, relatively new C, refreshed S, refreshed CL. Then they have the new CLS, SLK, and Ml on the way.
Old 07-25-10 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by I8ABMR
With the issues at Lexus this year it would not surprise me at all.
What issues would that be?
Well, I should put it as what issues would that be that Benz does not have ?
Old 07-25-10 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexusAnja
Really, I hope that Lexus does fall to 2nd, so they'll wake up and really strive again for the "endless pursuit for perfection"
It's "passionate pursuit of perfection" Get it right!
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Originally Posted by TwiBlueG35
Is it really that important who takes the crown? Not to me.
agree with this.



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