Nissan attacks Audi TTS and Porsche Cayman on London streets
07-30-10, 03:28 PM
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370Z vs. M3 is not an apples-to-apples comparison. The M3 better damn well be faster than a 370Z. Hell, the car should jack you off given the price you pay for one. BMW would lose all credibility to compare a 370Z to an M3---they just wouldnt.
As for this thread--it's hilarious. Everyone takes things so personally.
370Z, Cayman, Z4, and TT-S performance figures are subjective. With so many variables that can affect the performance of a vehicle (by as little as a tenth of a second), it's hard to maintain consistency from test-to-test.
If Nissan's posting figures that are better than the TT-S, Cayman, and Z4, who knows if they're any more accurate than that of Motortrend, Car & Driver, etc.
The bottom line is this: The Z offers performance, design (subjective), and reliability for THOUSANDS less than its closest competition. Whether or not it's a tenth of a second slower/faster than the competition doesnt change the fact that the car's a GREAT performer.
As for Nissan's method of marketing: More power to them. Audi, for one, is constantly attacking BMW and Lexus with its ads---the same way paper towel companies attack one another (dont ask me why I thought of paper towels).
Nissan's trying to shift public perception of its vehicles by being blunt and to the point. Why pay so much more when you can have equal [or better] performance, style, and quality for less? Oh, right, because you're badge trolls the lot of you
I will agree with a previous post, however, that the Z has enough history whereas this type of marketing may detract from it. Otherwise, war is war--have at it.
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07-31-10, 03:38 AM
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Does that rhyme on purpose? Cute.
370Z vs. M3 is not an apples-to-apples comparison. The M3 better damn well be faster than a 370Z. Hell, the car should jack you off given the price you pay for one. BMW would lose all credibility to compare a 370Z to an M3---they just wouldnt.
As for this thread--it's hilarious. Everyone takes things so personally.
370Z, Cayman, Z4, and TT-S performance figures are subjective. With so many variables that can affect the performance of a vehicle (by as little as a tenth of a second), it's hard to maintain consistency from test-to-test.
If Nissan's posting figures that are better than the TT-S, Cayman, and Z4, who knows if they're any more accurate than that of Motortrend, Car & Driver, etc.
The bottom line is this: The Z offers performance, design (subjective), and reliability for THOUSANDS less than its closest competition. Whether or not it's a tenth of a second slower/faster than the competition doesnt change the fact that the car's a GREAT performer.
As for Nissan's method of marketing: More power to them. Audi, for one, is constantly attacking BMW and Lexus with its ads---the same way paper towel companies attack one another (dont ask me why I thought of paper towels).
Nissan's trying to shift public perception of its vehicles by being blunt and to the point. Why pay so much more when you can have equal [or better] performance, style, and quality for less? Oh, right, because you're badge trolls the lot of you
I will agree with a previous post, however, that the Z has enough history whereas this type of marketing may detract from it. Otherwise, war is war--have at it.
370Z vs. M3 is not an apples-to-apples comparison. The M3 better damn well be faster than a 370Z. Hell, the car should jack you off given the price you pay for one. BMW would lose all credibility to compare a 370Z to an M3---they just wouldnt.
As for this thread--it's hilarious. Everyone takes things so personally.
370Z, Cayman, Z4, and TT-S performance figures are subjective. With so many variables that can affect the performance of a vehicle (by as little as a tenth of a second), it's hard to maintain consistency from test-to-test.
If Nissan's posting figures that are better than the TT-S, Cayman, and Z4, who knows if they're any more accurate than that of Motortrend, Car & Driver, etc.
The bottom line is this: The Z offers performance, design (subjective), and reliability for THOUSANDS less than its closest competition. Whether or not it's a tenth of a second slower/faster than the competition doesnt change the fact that the car's a GREAT performer.
As for Nissan's method of marketing: More power to them. Audi, for one, is constantly attacking BMW and Lexus with its ads---the same way paper towel companies attack one another (dont ask me why I thought of paper towels).
Nissan's trying to shift public perception of its vehicles by being blunt and to the point. Why pay so much more when you can have equal [or better] performance, style, and quality for less? Oh, right, because you're badge trolls the lot of you
I will agree with a previous post, however, that the Z has enough history whereas this type of marketing may detract from it. Otherwise, war is war--have at it.
Going on your logic, The 2011 Mustang GT is just as fast and capable as an M3 but I don't see Ford (yet) attacking anyone.. I think they just let the cars sell themselves but I think these days car companies (most of them) are too desperate and feel they have to put down another car to gain respect, to me when i see that I lose respect for the Antagonized company.
07-31-10, 03:49 AM
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Europeans don't seem to go for mainstream cars with big engines like we Americans do. Cars like the Honda Legend (Acura RL), Kia Opirus (Amanti) and Hyundai Grandeur (Azera), all available with a "big V6" are sales failures in Europe. Their European rivals, the Passat, Laguna, C5, Superb etc. are healthy sellers with their smaller engines. The big V6 motors in these cars, though available, seem to be at the bottom of the desirability scale.
If the Legend, Amanti etc. came with smaller engine options, "realistic engine options" in the eyes of the Europeans, I would think their sales would be more successful.
The Nissan GT-R is an incredible machine, right? Yet, most people would probably prefer the simple Porsche 911 Carrera standing next to it in the parking lot because "it's a Porsche" (or the recognizable shape etc.).
07-31-10, 03:51 AM
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Haha you bet ya. Even if our country is corrupt and ridden with crime, I can say that AFAIK, doing something like this on Philippine soil will not allow you to get away with such an act that easily
Take instance this one
In America, it's alright to do that.
However, in the Philippines, the moment Audi/PGA Cars mentions the word 'BMW' in any of their ads be it TV, print, non-print, etc., then your ad will not get approved.
You can be sued and under fair trade laws and local advertising regulations, any violator can be fined and prosecuted
Take instance this one
In America, it's alright to do that.
However, in the Philippines, the moment Audi/PGA Cars mentions the word 'BMW' in any of their ads be it TV, print, non-print, etc., then your ad will not get approved.
You can be sued and under fair trade laws and local advertising regulations, any violator can be fined and prosecuted
Thank you for this information.
With the exception of Japan, I've never been to any other Asian country.
07-31-10, 02:20 PM
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I don't smoke at all but maybe you do as you don't pay attention well. The AD posted by Nissan has the performance numbers 0-62 mph and the test you post is 0-60, heck yeah the Audi has better numbers to 0-60 too.. On the Porsche Cayman 0-62mph Read it and weep... 
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...-3.4-S/236352/
Let me simplify for you: Nissan states 0-62 mph is 5.5 secs
== Sources i have say Audi TTS does 0-62 mph in 5.2 secs
== Most updated Test, Cayman does 0-62 mph in 4.9 secs
Its always convenient for manufacturers to mislead the public during advertisements - mostly done by desperate companies, i'm not trying to down Nissan, heck i've owned 3 Infiniti's in the last 5 years. I just don't agree with their in-accurate test numbers..
Please READ next time..
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...-3.4-S/236352/Let me simplify for you: Nissan states 0-62 mph is 5.5 secs
== Sources i have say Audi TTS does 0-62 mph in 5.2 secs
== Most updated Test, Cayman does 0-62 mph in 4.9 secs
Its always convenient for manufacturers to mislead the public during advertisements - mostly done by desperate companies, i'm not trying to down Nissan, heck i've owned 3 Infiniti's in the last 5 years. I just don't agree with their in-accurate test numbers..
Please READ next time..
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