Buick Flagship Sedan to Rival Lexus LS? Return of the Park Avenue
08-06-10, 01:47 PM
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If thats the LS contender from Buick then I have to say that Hyundai did a much better job with their LS contender the Equus. Only time will tell if they will take off, but would say the boys at GM have a little more work to do
08-06-10, 03:17 PM
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How could anyone find the LaCrosse to be a better looking car than the ES? I know--subjective and all, but really.
The ES is a conservative (some might say bland) design. It's the definition of inoffensive. It still manages to look classy, especially in certain colors.
The LaCrosse looks bloated and overstyled, like GM was just trying too hard. The interior is hideous--a total reversal in good design philosophy. It's purely form over function. This is what happens when you don't let engineers say "no". And while the ES interior is nothing to write home about, it does manage to get one thing right: simplicity and ergonomics.
The ES is a conservative (some might say bland) design. It's the definition of inoffensive. It still manages to look classy, especially in certain colors.
The LaCrosse looks bloated and overstyled, like GM was just trying too hard. The interior is hideous--a total reversal in good design philosophy. It's purely form over function. This is what happens when you don't let engineers say "no". And while the ES interior is nothing to write home about, it does manage to get one thing right: simplicity and ergonomics.
08-06-10, 04:02 PM
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Not to mention, the Cadillac SRX is supposed to target the Lexus RX. If they are publicly stating these targets now, seems that GM's got their signals crossed because Cadillac's newest model is not following the BMW target.
08-06-10, 04:48 PM
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I see GM is taking the Hyundai approach to marketing, and Acura approach in terms of execution 
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Honestly, talk is cheap, and this is some really cheap talk. In no way will a FWD-based car be able to compete with the LS. This is keeping in mind with the fact that by the time this car actually DOES come out, the next-generation LS will already be out as well.
Also good points about the LaCrosse and ES; The LaCrosse is still not a superior car even though it is new and the ES is old. Sales are higher yes, but with a much-lower base price I would expect sales to be higher. It would be a huge disappointment if sales weren't higher.
On that note, I won't be surprised if the next-gen ES beats the LaCrosse in sales once it's been out for a while .
.Honestly, talk is cheap, and this is some really cheap talk. In no way will a FWD-based car be able to compete with the LS. This is keeping in mind with the fact that by the time this car actually DOES come out, the next-generation LS will already be out as well.
Also good points about the LaCrosse and ES; The LaCrosse is still not a superior car even though it is new and the ES is old. Sales are higher yes, but with a much-lower base price I would expect sales to be higher. It would be a huge disappointment if sales weren't higher.
On that note, I won't be surprised if the next-gen ES beats the LaCrosse in sales once it's been out for a while .
08-06-10, 05:34 PM
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The LS WON WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10704104...ar-of-the-year
The LS now offers a SPORT model which got very positive reviews.
The LS debuted with 11 WORLD FIRSTS.
The LS, A8, S-class, 7, XJ are all some of the worlds best vehicles. Period. There is no disputing the LS is the greatest large sedan ever from Japan and a worthy competitor.
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08-06-10, 05:44 PM
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Well firstly, consider the Audi "A8" is essentially a front wheel drive vehicle, and is arguably one of the best automobiles built in existence today. Many would argue the car as a whole is simply a better package than the aging, and slightly bland, Lexus LS. The product today does nothing class-leading beyond being very quiet and cushy. No emphasis, again, placed on driver involvement, which is nearly-expected in this class. In my opinion, it explains why it only caters to Asian and American markets and no where else. Every other competitor in this segment is a true world-car, sans Lexus LS.
Where do I even begin? Russia, Dubai, USA, gaining share in Asian markets.
It may not cater to European markets, because Lexus wont offer the LS with cloth seats and gas sipping diesel. I wonder how many V8 A8/S/7 are sold in Europe.
As far as your claim that A8 is a better package than "the aging" LS, its almost laughable when you check the sales numbers. A8 simply doesn't compete and never has in the USA. Don't get me wrong, I love the car, but its elegant looks are the only thing it has going for itself. Have you seen the redesigned one? It will become the next Q45.
And by the way, current A8 model is made since 2002, while LS is made since 2006, so if anything its the A8 that's aging.
08-06-10, 06:39 PM
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Sorry you just lost all credibility.
The LS WON WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10704104...ar-of-the-year
The LS now offers a SPORT model which got very positive reviews.
The LS debuted with 11 WORLD FIRSTS.
The LS, A8, S-class, 7, XJ are all some of the worlds best vehicles. Period. There is no disputing the LS is the greatest large sedan ever from Japan and a worthy competitor.
The LS WON WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10704104...ar-of-the-year
The LS now offers a SPORT model which got very positive reviews.
The LS debuted with 11 WORLD FIRSTS.
The LS, A8, S-class, 7, XJ are all some of the worlds best vehicles. Period. There is no disputing the LS is the greatest large sedan ever from Japan and a worthy competitor.
And as far as "11 world firsts", could you list them out? Products from the competition, I assure you, also have numerous "world firsts" in their portfolio.
People have different opinions, I'm not going to suddenly change my perspective because you want to purport it as being somehow "wildly off base". I assure you, it is not, and i am not the only one who feels this way. I'd suggest you learn to accept different "realities" without rudely insulting your fellow forum-users, Sir. I will gracefully bow out to avoid forthcoming un constructive dialogue.
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08-06-10, 07:09 PM
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They don't need a new car design to target Lexus, all they have to do is get the Government to get on to the Mass Media again and have them strike fear into potential buyers. 
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08-06-10, 08:19 PM
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Japanese market Lexus LS460 boasts a host of "world's firsts"
by Stuart Waterman (RSS feed) on Sep 19th 2006 at 7:57PM
Speaking of the Japanese Domestic Market LS460, Lexus pulled out all the stops for the luxury's car introduction on familiar ground, outfitting its flagship with an array of innovative features. LS460 technology "world's firsts" include:
the 4.6-liter V8 sports "Dual VVTi": VVT-iE (variable Valve Timing-intelligent by Electric motor) on the intake side and VVT-i on the exhaust side
eight-speed automatic transmission - the 8 Super ECT
a vehicle-front pedestrian detection system
collision-avoidance steering assist
vehicle-rear detection system
an electrically-operated parking brake which can automatically engage and release when the gearshift enters and leaves the "park" position
a passenger compartment "oxygen level conditioner" to maintain oxygen levels in the cabin
electric door locks and power windows that can be remotely activated using a cell-phone
Not all of these features will make the overseas market versions of the LS460. More details on all these innovations are in the official press release after the jump.
[Source: Lexus]
Official Press Release (excerpts)
Driving Performance
The components that determine basic driving performance-notably the 4.6-liter V8 gasoline engine, the eight-speed automatic transmission (8 Super ECT), the platform, and the front and rear multi-link suspension-have all been developed afresh to impart characteristics befitting a prestige luxury vehicle of the new age. Additionally, the adoption of VDIM (Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management) and other advanced electronic control technologies contributes to an incomparably smooth ride.
Engine Specifications
Model 1UR-FSE
Type V8 DOHC with Dual VVT-i *1 and VVT-iE *2 (on the intake side of the Dual VVT-i)
Displacement [cc] 4,608
Bore x stroke [mm] 94.0 x 83.0mm
Fuel supply system D-4S *3 (direct fuel injection + port fuel injection)
Fuel type Premium unleaded gasoline
Compression ratio 11.8
Maximum output [kW (PS) / rpm] 283 (385) / 6,400
Maximum torque [N-m (kg-m) / rpm] 500 (51.0) / 4,100
Exhaust emissions levels compared to the Japanese 2005 standards *4 75% lower
Fuel consumption measured using the 10-15 Japanese test cycle *5 [km / l] 9.1*6
*1Dual Variable Valve Timing-intelligent
*2Variable Valve Timing-intelligent by Electric motor
*3Direct injection four-stroke gasoline engine, superior version
*4Specified under the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport's Approval System for Low-emission Vehicles
*5Outlined by the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport *68.7 on LS460 "version U" and "version U–I package"
The newly developed high-torque 4.6-liter V8 1UR-FSE engine powers up smoothly from low to high speeds.
The world's first* 8 Super ECT combines outstanding starting and acceleration performance with high fuel efficiency and quiet operation.
The front and rear multi-link suspension-comprising a newly developed platform and an electronically controlled air suspension system fitted with AVS (Adaptive Variable Suspension)-provides outstanding maneuverability and cruising stability along with smooth and gentle riding comfort.
Excellent quietness, cruising performance and riding comfort along with superior collision safety are ensured by the high-rigidity vehicle body, while the high aerodynamic performance contributes to stability and quietness at high speeds and improved fuel efficiency (with an aerodynamic drag coefficient, or Cd value, of 0.26).
The relationship between the amount the steering wheel is turned and the angle of the front wheels is maintained at the optimum level per vehicle speed by VGRS (Variable Gear Ratio Steering), which gives a feeling of stability to the steering.
The VDIM stabilizes the vehicle by coordinating control and achieving an optimum balance among drive power, steering and braking, thus allowing high preventive safety and ideal vehicle performance.
The 235/50R18 tires deliver not only good cruising performance but also excellent riding comfort and reduced road noise, while the brakes provide solid stopping power, precise control and a sense of firmness (standard on all vehicles in the series except the "version S" and "version S–I package").
The LS460 "version S" and "version S–I package" are equipped with specially developed wide, large-diameter 245/45R19 tires and large-diameter brakes and have a specially tuned suspension-features designed to realize a more attractive cruising performance.
*As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
One of the World's Highest Fuel Efficiencies in its Class and Clean Exhaust Emissions
The LS460 features the D-4S (D-4S = direct injection four-stroke gasoline engine, superior version) engine, which has a dual-injector system that combines direct fuel injection with port fuel injection. This V8 engine, the maximum potential of which is drawn out by the world's first *1 electric motor-driven VVT-iE (Variable Valve Timing-intelligent by Electric motor) installed on the intake side of the Dual VVT-i (Dual Variable Valve Timing-intelligent), and the 8 Super ECT transmission, which simultaneously performs optimal control of the gear ratio and engine torque, achieves class-leading *2 fuel efficiency and clean exhaust emissions.
All vehicles in the series have been certified as having emissions levels 75% lower than the 2005 standards under the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport's Approval System for Low-emission Vehicles. The "version U" and "version U–I package" vehicles both achieve fuel efficiency that is 10 percent greater than the Japanese 2010 fuel efficiency standards *3, while all other versions meet these standards. (The "version U" and "version U–I package" vehicles qualify for incentives under the Japanese government's Green Taxation System.)
By using Toyota's original comprehensive environmental impact assessment system known as Eco-VAS (Eco-Vehicle Assessment System), environmental targets were set in the development stage and a lifecycle assessment was conducted to achieve a reduction of CO2 emissions and other atmospheric pollutants throughout all stages of the vehicle's life from production and use to disposal.
In addition to using materials with excellent recyclability, greater attention has been paid to the environment by, among other means, reducing VOC (volatile organic compounds) emissions and the use of substances of environmental concern such as lead, mercury, cadmium and hexavalent chromium, achieving the Japanese automobile industry's voluntary goals of eliminating the use of these substances.
*1As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
*2Compared to vehicles of similar engine displacement
*3Specified by the Japanese Law Concerning the Rational Use of Energy
Safety Features and Driving-support Systems
New Pre-crash Safety System
In line with the Integrated Safety Management Concept *1, the goal of which is to create in the future "a vehicle that does not cause accidents" by steadily moving toward a state of reduced risk, the functions of the existing Pre-crash Safety System (millimeter-wave radar system) are supplemented by three world's first *2 features: a vehicle-front pedestrian detection system and collision-avoidance steering support, as well as a function to address vehicles approaching from the rear; to create an advanced Pre-crash Safety System (optional on "version U" and "version U–I package").
The vehicle-front detection system, created by the fusion of improved millimeter-wave radar with a newly developed stereo camera, enables detection not only of vehicles and obstacles but also of pedestrians. A near-infrared ray projector located in the headlights supports nighttime detection. In addition, coordination of VGRS, AVS, VDIM and other systems helps drivers perform evasive maneuvers by improving vehicle stability.
The vehicle-rear detection system, meanwhile, consists of a millimeter-wave radar device installed in the rear bumper that detects vehicles approaching from behind. If it is determined that there is a risk of collision, the hazard lights flash to warn the driver of the rear vehicle. If the vehicle continues to approach, sensors inside the driver's seat headrest of the forward vehicle detect the position of the driver's head, and prior to impact the Pre-crash Intelligent Headrest shifts forward to an appropriate position to reduce the risk of whiplash injury sustained upon collision.
*1 Toyota's safety-related technology and vehicle development aims to provide optimal driving support based on driving conditions, not only by integrating individual safety technologies and systems in the vehicle, but also by adopting an infrastructure-respondent system (road-to-vehicle) and using information obtained from vehicles other than the driver's (vehicle-to-vehicle), leading to the future realization of a vehicle that does not cause accidents.
*2 As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
The existing Pre-crash Safety System (millimeter-wave radar system), which warns the driver that a frontal collision is imminent and works to lessen the injury sustained on impact, is optional on all vehicles in the series.
Along with the impact-absorbing body and high-strength cabin, further contributions toward world-leading levels of safety are made by the dual-stage SRS (Supplemental Restraint System) airbags for driver and front passenger seat (SRS twin-chamber airbag for front passenger seat); SRS knee airbags for driver and front passenger seat; SRS side airbags for driver and front passenger seat; and SRS curtain shield airbags for both front and rear seats. In addition, rear seats are fitted with SRS side airbags as standard on "version U" and "version U–I package" vehicles.
New Radar Cruise Control System and Other Advanced Features
Radar Cruise Control with an all-speed tracking function, a Lane-keeping Assist system and an Intelligent Parking Assist system (with ultrasonic sensors) with enhanced convenience are among the advanced systems designed to support driving by lessening the workload of the driver. (The Intelligent Parking Assist system is standard on all vehicles in the series. Other systems are optional on "version U" and "version U–I package.")
For situations such as traffic congestion in which repeated stopping and starting is required, a switch-activated brake hold function maintains braking force on all four wheels to lessen the strain of brake operation. For use during parking, a switch-activated, electrically operated parking brake, when set to "AUTO", automatically engages and releases in unison with the position of the gear-shift stick in another world's first *.
*As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
Comfort, Convenience and Hospitality
With the aim of delivering discreet hospitality sensitive to drivers and passengers by placing their needs at the center of the spatial concept, the interior design, fittings and controls were conceived to reflect the essential elements of congeniality and user-friendliness.
Along with the high-function features natural in a flagship sedan, the interior design reflects the attention paid right down to the texture and feel of the materials. This careful design is apparent not only in the visual friendliness and the feel of the controls when operated, but even in details such as the speed with which the various storage compartments open and close, reflecting a sense of discreet hospitality.
For further refined materials, the "I package" boasts, among other features, semi-aniline leather seats, a wood-grain and leather-bound steering wheel (with steering wheel heater) and shift **** and an Alcantara®*1 roof.
Four-zone front and rear air conditioning (standard on "version U" and "version U–I package") allows independent automatic temperature control for all four occupants, while, in a world's first *2, an oxygen-level conditioner prevents the cabin's oxygen level from becoming too low (optional on "version U" and "version U–I package").
The high acoustic standards of the 19-speaker Mark Levinson® Reference surround-sound audio system ensure an optimal acoustic environment in all seats (optional on all vehicles in the series).
A review of the materials, processing methods and adhesives used for interior parts resulted in a reduction in the amount of VOCs used, thereby also reducing the discomforting odors emitted from such compounds.
The new LS460 features rear-window power sunshades, which block direct sunlight to improve rear-seat comfort, and rear-door power sunshades, which block lateral rays of sunlight and additionally safeguard rear-seat privacy (standard on "version U" and "version U–I package").
Controlled remotely by an ultra slim card or an electronic key, the power trunk lid allows the trunk to be opened and shut by fingertip operation (optional on all vehicles in the series).
*1 A suede-effect artificial leather by Toray Industries, Inc.
*2 As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
G-Link Telematics Service
Operating in coordination with the Lexus Owners Desk, a dedicated Lexus call center, is a cutting-edge, Lexus-dedicated telematics service called G-Link (compatible with HELPNET and G-Security), which provides a route planning service with traffic congestion warnings.
The LS460 boasts the world's first *1 system that allows remote locking of doors, closing of windows, etc., in response to a cell-phone e-mail sent to drivers if they forget to secure the vehicle. Also fitted is the G-Security system with enhanced functions. In the event of vehicle theft, at the owner's request the engine ignition and release of the steering wheel can be blocked via a remote signal from the Lexus Owners Desk (remote immobilizer) (optional on all vehicles in the series).
The advanced-function, G-Link-compatible HDD (hard disc drive) navigation system includes a "sound library" that can hold up to 2,000 music titles *2.
*1 As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
*2 Approximate figure based on specified conditions
Pursuing Higher Level of Automotive Engineering
State-of-the-art analytical, measurement, design and production technology, along with practiced expertise in production and quality control, add up to high-quality, high-performance automotive engineering.
Zinc die-casting techniques based on the latest analytical technology along with skilled buff finishing and meticulous assembly are behind the seamless beauty of the side-window molding.
The ultimately balanced engine operation and an engine tone befitting a flagship vehicle are achieved by mirror-polish finishing of sliding parts using state-of-the-art machine tools coupled with skilled visual and tactile inspection and adjustment.
The high-quality paint finish of the body, a delight to behold, is achieved through use of the latest painting robots, optimally programmed to apply paints in the stringently selected specific colors of the Lexus vehicles, combined with the water-polishing of painted surfaces carried out by skilled hands.
[Source: Toyota]
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/19/j...worlds-firsts/
by Stuart Waterman (RSS feed) on Sep 19th 2006 at 7:57PM
Speaking of the Japanese Domestic Market LS460, Lexus pulled out all the stops for the luxury's car introduction on familiar ground, outfitting its flagship with an array of innovative features. LS460 technology "world's firsts" include:
the 4.6-liter V8 sports "Dual VVTi": VVT-iE (variable Valve Timing-intelligent by Electric motor) on the intake side and VVT-i on the exhaust side
eight-speed automatic transmission - the 8 Super ECT
a vehicle-front pedestrian detection system
collision-avoidance steering assist
vehicle-rear detection system
an electrically-operated parking brake which can automatically engage and release when the gearshift enters and leaves the "park" position
a passenger compartment "oxygen level conditioner" to maintain oxygen levels in the cabin
electric door locks and power windows that can be remotely activated using a cell-phone
Not all of these features will make the overseas market versions of the LS460. More details on all these innovations are in the official press release after the jump.
[Source: Lexus]
Official Press Release (excerpts)
Driving Performance
The components that determine basic driving performance-notably the 4.6-liter V8 gasoline engine, the eight-speed automatic transmission (8 Super ECT), the platform, and the front and rear multi-link suspension-have all been developed afresh to impart characteristics befitting a prestige luxury vehicle of the new age. Additionally, the adoption of VDIM (Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management) and other advanced electronic control technologies contributes to an incomparably smooth ride.
Engine Specifications
Model 1UR-FSE
Type V8 DOHC with Dual VVT-i *1 and VVT-iE *2 (on the intake side of the Dual VVT-i)
Displacement [cc] 4,608
Bore x stroke [mm] 94.0 x 83.0mm
Fuel supply system D-4S *3 (direct fuel injection + port fuel injection)
Fuel type Premium unleaded gasoline
Compression ratio 11.8
Maximum output [kW (PS) / rpm] 283 (385) / 6,400
Maximum torque [N-m (kg-m) / rpm] 500 (51.0) / 4,100
Exhaust emissions levels compared to the Japanese 2005 standards *4 75% lower
Fuel consumption measured using the 10-15 Japanese test cycle *5 [km / l] 9.1*6
*1Dual Variable Valve Timing-intelligent
*2Variable Valve Timing-intelligent by Electric motor
*3Direct injection four-stroke gasoline engine, superior version
*4Specified under the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport's Approval System for Low-emission Vehicles
*5Outlined by the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport *68.7 on LS460 "version U" and "version U–I package"
The newly developed high-torque 4.6-liter V8 1UR-FSE engine powers up smoothly from low to high speeds.
The world's first* 8 Super ECT combines outstanding starting and acceleration performance with high fuel efficiency and quiet operation.
The front and rear multi-link suspension-comprising a newly developed platform and an electronically controlled air suspension system fitted with AVS (Adaptive Variable Suspension)-provides outstanding maneuverability and cruising stability along with smooth and gentle riding comfort.
Excellent quietness, cruising performance and riding comfort along with superior collision safety are ensured by the high-rigidity vehicle body, while the high aerodynamic performance contributes to stability and quietness at high speeds and improved fuel efficiency (with an aerodynamic drag coefficient, or Cd value, of 0.26).
The relationship between the amount the steering wheel is turned and the angle of the front wheels is maintained at the optimum level per vehicle speed by VGRS (Variable Gear Ratio Steering), which gives a feeling of stability to the steering.
The VDIM stabilizes the vehicle by coordinating control and achieving an optimum balance among drive power, steering and braking, thus allowing high preventive safety and ideal vehicle performance.
The 235/50R18 tires deliver not only good cruising performance but also excellent riding comfort and reduced road noise, while the brakes provide solid stopping power, precise control and a sense of firmness (standard on all vehicles in the series except the "version S" and "version S–I package").
The LS460 "version S" and "version S–I package" are equipped with specially developed wide, large-diameter 245/45R19 tires and large-diameter brakes and have a specially tuned suspension-features designed to realize a more attractive cruising performance.
*As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
One of the World's Highest Fuel Efficiencies in its Class and Clean Exhaust Emissions
The LS460 features the D-4S (D-4S = direct injection four-stroke gasoline engine, superior version) engine, which has a dual-injector system that combines direct fuel injection with port fuel injection. This V8 engine, the maximum potential of which is drawn out by the world's first *1 electric motor-driven VVT-iE (Variable Valve Timing-intelligent by Electric motor) installed on the intake side of the Dual VVT-i (Dual Variable Valve Timing-intelligent), and the 8 Super ECT transmission, which simultaneously performs optimal control of the gear ratio and engine torque, achieves class-leading *2 fuel efficiency and clean exhaust emissions.
All vehicles in the series have been certified as having emissions levels 75% lower than the 2005 standards under the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport's Approval System for Low-emission Vehicles. The "version U" and "version U–I package" vehicles both achieve fuel efficiency that is 10 percent greater than the Japanese 2010 fuel efficiency standards *3, while all other versions meet these standards. (The "version U" and "version U–I package" vehicles qualify for incentives under the Japanese government's Green Taxation System.)
By using Toyota's original comprehensive environmental impact assessment system known as Eco-VAS (Eco-Vehicle Assessment System), environmental targets were set in the development stage and a lifecycle assessment was conducted to achieve a reduction of CO2 emissions and other atmospheric pollutants throughout all stages of the vehicle's life from production and use to disposal.
In addition to using materials with excellent recyclability, greater attention has been paid to the environment by, among other means, reducing VOC (volatile organic compounds) emissions and the use of substances of environmental concern such as lead, mercury, cadmium and hexavalent chromium, achieving the Japanese automobile industry's voluntary goals of eliminating the use of these substances.
*1As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
*2Compared to vehicles of similar engine displacement
*3Specified by the Japanese Law Concerning the Rational Use of Energy
Safety Features and Driving-support Systems
New Pre-crash Safety System
In line with the Integrated Safety Management Concept *1, the goal of which is to create in the future "a vehicle that does not cause accidents" by steadily moving toward a state of reduced risk, the functions of the existing Pre-crash Safety System (millimeter-wave radar system) are supplemented by three world's first *2 features: a vehicle-front pedestrian detection system and collision-avoidance steering support, as well as a function to address vehicles approaching from the rear; to create an advanced Pre-crash Safety System (optional on "version U" and "version U–I package").
The vehicle-front detection system, created by the fusion of improved millimeter-wave radar with a newly developed stereo camera, enables detection not only of vehicles and obstacles but also of pedestrians. A near-infrared ray projector located in the headlights supports nighttime detection. In addition, coordination of VGRS, AVS, VDIM and other systems helps drivers perform evasive maneuvers by improving vehicle stability.
The vehicle-rear detection system, meanwhile, consists of a millimeter-wave radar device installed in the rear bumper that detects vehicles approaching from behind. If it is determined that there is a risk of collision, the hazard lights flash to warn the driver of the rear vehicle. If the vehicle continues to approach, sensors inside the driver's seat headrest of the forward vehicle detect the position of the driver's head, and prior to impact the Pre-crash Intelligent Headrest shifts forward to an appropriate position to reduce the risk of whiplash injury sustained upon collision.
*1 Toyota's safety-related technology and vehicle development aims to provide optimal driving support based on driving conditions, not only by integrating individual safety technologies and systems in the vehicle, but also by adopting an infrastructure-respondent system (road-to-vehicle) and using information obtained from vehicles other than the driver's (vehicle-to-vehicle), leading to the future realization of a vehicle that does not cause accidents.
*2 As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
The existing Pre-crash Safety System (millimeter-wave radar system), which warns the driver that a frontal collision is imminent and works to lessen the injury sustained on impact, is optional on all vehicles in the series.
Along with the impact-absorbing body and high-strength cabin, further contributions toward world-leading levels of safety are made by the dual-stage SRS (Supplemental Restraint System) airbags for driver and front passenger seat (SRS twin-chamber airbag for front passenger seat); SRS knee airbags for driver and front passenger seat; SRS side airbags for driver and front passenger seat; and SRS curtain shield airbags for both front and rear seats. In addition, rear seats are fitted with SRS side airbags as standard on "version U" and "version U–I package" vehicles.
New Radar Cruise Control System and Other Advanced Features
Radar Cruise Control with an all-speed tracking function, a Lane-keeping Assist system and an Intelligent Parking Assist system (with ultrasonic sensors) with enhanced convenience are among the advanced systems designed to support driving by lessening the workload of the driver. (The Intelligent Parking Assist system is standard on all vehicles in the series. Other systems are optional on "version U" and "version U–I package.")
For situations such as traffic congestion in which repeated stopping and starting is required, a switch-activated brake hold function maintains braking force on all four wheels to lessen the strain of brake operation. For use during parking, a switch-activated, electrically operated parking brake, when set to "AUTO", automatically engages and releases in unison with the position of the gear-shift stick in another world's first *.
*As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
Comfort, Convenience and Hospitality
With the aim of delivering discreet hospitality sensitive to drivers and passengers by placing their needs at the center of the spatial concept, the interior design, fittings and controls were conceived to reflect the essential elements of congeniality and user-friendliness.
Along with the high-function features natural in a flagship sedan, the interior design reflects the attention paid right down to the texture and feel of the materials. This careful design is apparent not only in the visual friendliness and the feel of the controls when operated, but even in details such as the speed with which the various storage compartments open and close, reflecting a sense of discreet hospitality.
For further refined materials, the "I package" boasts, among other features, semi-aniline leather seats, a wood-grain and leather-bound steering wheel (with steering wheel heater) and shift **** and an Alcantara®*1 roof.
Four-zone front and rear air conditioning (standard on "version U" and "version U–I package") allows independent automatic temperature control for all four occupants, while, in a world's first *2, an oxygen-level conditioner prevents the cabin's oxygen level from becoming too low (optional on "version U" and "version U–I package").
The high acoustic standards of the 19-speaker Mark Levinson® Reference surround-sound audio system ensure an optimal acoustic environment in all seats (optional on all vehicles in the series).
A review of the materials, processing methods and adhesives used for interior parts resulted in a reduction in the amount of VOCs used, thereby also reducing the discomforting odors emitted from such compounds.
The new LS460 features rear-window power sunshades, which block direct sunlight to improve rear-seat comfort, and rear-door power sunshades, which block lateral rays of sunlight and additionally safeguard rear-seat privacy (standard on "version U" and "version U–I package").
Controlled remotely by an ultra slim card or an electronic key, the power trunk lid allows the trunk to be opened and shut by fingertip operation (optional on all vehicles in the series).
*1 A suede-effect artificial leather by Toray Industries, Inc.
*2 As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
G-Link Telematics Service
Operating in coordination with the Lexus Owners Desk, a dedicated Lexus call center, is a cutting-edge, Lexus-dedicated telematics service called G-Link (compatible with HELPNET and G-Security), which provides a route planning service with traffic congestion warnings.
The LS460 boasts the world's first *1 system that allows remote locking of doors, closing of windows, etc., in response to a cell-phone e-mail sent to drivers if they forget to secure the vehicle. Also fitted is the G-Security system with enhanced functions. In the event of vehicle theft, at the owner's request the engine ignition and release of the steering wheel can be blocked via a remote signal from the Lexus Owners Desk (remote immobilizer) (optional on all vehicles in the series).
The advanced-function, G-Link-compatible HDD (hard disc drive) navigation system includes a "sound library" that can hold up to 2,000 music titles *2.
*1 As of August 2006, according to a TMC survey
*2 Approximate figure based on specified conditions
Pursuing Higher Level of Automotive Engineering
State-of-the-art analytical, measurement, design and production technology, along with practiced expertise in production and quality control, add up to high-quality, high-performance automotive engineering.
Zinc die-casting techniques based on the latest analytical technology along with skilled buff finishing and meticulous assembly are behind the seamless beauty of the side-window molding.
The ultimately balanced engine operation and an engine tone befitting a flagship vehicle are achieved by mirror-polish finishing of sliding parts using state-of-the-art machine tools coupled with skilled visual and tactile inspection and adjustment.
The high-quality paint finish of the body, a delight to behold, is achieved through use of the latest painting robots, optimally programmed to apply paints in the stringently selected specific colors of the Lexus vehicles, combined with the water-polishing of painted surfaces carried out by skilled hands.
[Source: Toyota]
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/19/j...worlds-firsts/
08-07-10, 03:51 AM
#25
I come from a GM family and have bought GM products for decades. Most of my purchases have been GM trucks and I've been mainly satisfied with the reliability (aside from a couple early 5.3L engines with cold start knock). However, I've owned or leased a couple of Cadillacs (CTS & SRX), owned a C5 vette, plus considered other GM cars (STS, DTS, Lucerne, LaCrosse, Impala, Malibu) and felt that quality and reliability are lacking in the cars. For example, I test drove at least two dozen new and used DTS / Lucerne models and about half of the cars had a suspension shake that is all too common on that platform. I don't know what their problem is with car engineering, but the quality difference between their trucks and cars is puzzling. OTOH, I leased a Lincoln MKZ and, aside from the Fusion roots showing everywhere, the car was completely reliable.
08-07-10, 05:05 AM
#26
Pole Position
Where do you get such falsehoods?
08-07-10, 06:19 AM
#27
Lexus Champion
When you think about it this is nothing new It is the usual m.o. in the car business when a new model comes out. They always target and compare themselves to one of the segment leaders. A new family sedan - Target Accord & Camry, a new sports sedqn - The 3 Series, CUV - RX or something similar etc. etc. All of this done with varying degrees of success.
So Buick would just be keeping up the tradition if they actually come out with an LS "fighter".
So Buick would just be keeping up the tradition if they actually come out with an LS "fighter".
08-07-10, 07:01 AM
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?I am sorry those are my opinions and I assure you are not only my own. Is the Lexus LS in dead-last when it comes to driver involvement? Yes, that is what I believe. Is this a good thing? We can debate the intended target audience of said product for decades and there will never be agreement. The fact is, a "sport" package is nothing more than plastic added to the bottom of the vehicle, same as Audi S-Line, BMW M, MB AMG, and so forth.
And as far as "11 world firsts", could you list them out? Products from the competition, I assure you, also have numerous "world firsts" in their portfolio.
People have different opinions, I'm not going to suddenly change my perspective because you want to purport it as being somehow "wildly off base". I assure you, it is not, and i am not the only one who feels this way. I'd suggest you learn to accept different "realities" without rudely insulting your fellow forum-users, Sir. I will gracefully bow out to avoid forthcoming un constructive dialogue.
And as far as "11 world firsts", could you list them out? Products from the competition, I assure you, also have numerous "world firsts" in their portfolio.
People have different opinions, I'm not going to suddenly change my perspective because you want to purport it as being somehow "wildly off base". I assure you, it is not, and i am not the only one who feels this way. I'd suggest you learn to accept different "realities" without rudely insulting your fellow forum-users, Sir. I will gracefully bow out to avoid forthcoming un constructive dialogue.
The LS sport package was NEVER intended to compete with S-Line, AMG or M ("plastic added on"- you serious?????
), and anyone who perceives that either doesn't follow Lexus' philosophy very closely or understand the brand (ever heard of "F"?)... or needs to share what they are smoking with the rest of the board 
Didn't take long...
08-07-10, 07:53 AM
#29
Lexus Champion
I have to laugh when I hear this. What exactly is driver involvement again?
Please explain this as I am lost as to what it is.
Sooo... this means you have nothing to back up your opinion? How convenient.
Please explain this as I am lost as to what it is.
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08-07-10, 02:24 PM
#30
Lexus Fanatic
?I am sorry those are my opinions and I assure you are not only my own. Is the Lexus LS in dead-last when it comes to driver involvement? Yes, that is what I believe. Is this a good thing? We can debate the intended target audience of said product for decades and there will never be agreement. The fact is, a "sport" package is nothing more than plastic added to the bottom of the vehicle, same as Audi S-Line, BMW M, MB AMG, and so forth.
And as far as "11 world firsts", could you list them out? Products from the competition, I assure you, also have numerous "world firsts" in their portfolio.
People have different opinions, I'm not going to suddenly change my perspective because you want to purport it as being somehow "wildly off base". I assure you, it is not, and i am not the only one who feels this way. I'd suggest you learn to accept different "realities" without rudely insulting your fellow forum-users, Sir. I will gracefully bow out to avoid forthcoming un constructive dialogue.
And as far as "11 world firsts", could you list them out? Products from the competition, I assure you, also have numerous "world firsts" in their portfolio.
People have different opinions, I'm not going to suddenly change my perspective because you want to purport it as being somehow "wildly off base". I assure you, it is not, and i am not the only one who feels this way. I'd suggest you learn to accept different "realities" without rudely insulting your fellow forum-users, Sir. I will gracefully bow out to avoid forthcoming un constructive dialogue.
good post. Club Lexus members need to realize that we all have opinions and knowledge and that some members opinions dont need to be shoved down others throats. I have been saying this "again" and "again", but ...............