anyone see the new kia sorento and sportage on the streets yet ?
08-24-10, 08:07 AM
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I just saw it in person yesterday. It looks smaller in person than the CRV. It was a basic strippo one (no leather, no pano roof). Although it was nice, I still plan to drive it later to see how nice it really is versus the CRV.
08-24-10, 08:50 AM
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u sure the crv looks bigger ? my tennant has a crv and the thing is tiny...maybe the boxier, stronger stance sportage affectively makes it look visually bigger.
08-24-10, 09:32 AM
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Yes, CRV is taller with larger windows which makes it look bigger from the outside and feel bigger when sitting inside. Sportage has a slightly wider track, stronger stance.
08-24-10, 02:36 PM
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You'll be surprised how many pre-owned Lexus models there are in my neighborhood Hyundai dealer. The majority of them, according to the sales person, were trade-ins for the Genesis and Sonata with a few Santa Fe.
Also, right outside the dealership by the entrance there is an MB S550 sitting all pretty. Imagine that.
Also, right outside the dealership by the entrance there is an MB S550 sitting all pretty. Imagine that.
On rare occasions a car will be traded in and then go on the used car lot at that same dealership, but not frequently. Many people have the same perception that your salesman was shooting for - "Oh well since the lot is full of BMWs, Mercedes, Lexus, McLarens, Bugattis, and Fiskers, those must have been traded in for Hyundais!"
Wrong. In fact, some dealerships who are really aggressively pushing new models will go to auction and buy competing models and put them on platforms in the used car dept/lot to try and deliberately give that impression and draw attention.
08-24-10, 02:53 PM
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wait so this don't make sense, they would go through all the trouble
to get certain models at the auction just so they could give off the impression that they are getting traded in ?
this is pretty far fetched, so the fact that they want to sell a car is no longer the goal ? c'mon now.
yah the dealer who said that about lexus trade in's was definitely full of bs but this kinda sounds strange.
to get certain models at the auction just so they could give off the impression that they are getting traded in ?
this is pretty far fetched, so the fact that they want to sell a car is no longer the goal ? c'mon now.
yah the dealer who said that about lexus trade in's was definitely full of bs but this kinda sounds strange.
08-24-10, 03:09 PM
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this is pretty far fetched, so the fact that they want to sell a car is no longer the goal ? c'mon now.
It never fails.
yah the dealer who said that about lexus trade in's was definitely full of bs but this kinda sounds strange.
08-24-10, 04:25 PM
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For what it's worth, your salesman is simply shooting you a line of complete and utter BS. I have worked in a few different car dealerships and also worked on the manufacturer side, and can promise you that 9 times out of 10 used cars are bought at an auction, whether internal (withing a dealer group, manufacturer, region) or external.
On rare occasions a car will be traded in and then go on the used car lot at that same dealership, but not frequently. Many people have the same perception that your salesman was shooting for - "Oh well since the lot is full of BMWs, Mercedes, Lexus, McLarens, Bugattis, and Fiskers, those must have been traded in for Hyundais!"
In fact, some dealerships who are really aggressively pushing new models will go to auction and buy competing models and put them on platforms in the used car dept/lot to try and deliberately give that impression and draw attention.
On rare occasions a car will be traded in and then go on the used car lot at that same dealership, but not frequently. Many people have the same perception that your salesman was shooting for - "Oh well since the lot is full of BMWs, Mercedes, Lexus, McLarens, Bugattis, and Fiskers, those must have been traded in for Hyundais!"
In fact, some dealerships who are really aggressively pushing new models will go to auction and buy competing models and put them on platforms in the used car dept/lot to try and deliberately give that impression and draw attention.
Buying auctioned cars, even for a dealership, can be a very risky buisness. They can include all kinds of lemons, flood-damaged vehicles (many of those were sold after Katrina), bank/dealer repos from those who couldn't keep up the payments, and even vehicles used in crimes/drug deals and impounded by the police.
08-24-10, 04:35 PM
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Guess it depends on the specific used car, but I would seriously doubt if Manufacturer-approved Certified Used Cars come from auctions. For a CPO, the car's history has to be documented, with service records, a clean title search, no accident damage (or properly-repaired damage), age/mileage limits, the 100+ point inspection procedure, etc....
Even without industry experience and knowledge, all you have to do is look at a few CARFAXs of nice manufacturer-approved CPO cars to know that.
All the CPO criteria is still met regardless.
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08-24-10, 04:40 PM
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08-24-10, 04:53 PM
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08-24-10, 04:56 PM
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My comment is related to factory-backed CPO cars as a reply to your comment (regarding industry experience) and yes I do know people very well that sell these CPO cars. And I've owned CPO cars too.
But anybody can see on the CARFAX reports of many desirable factory-backed CPO cars were they are sourced from. No industry experience needed.
Therefore my comment was about CPO cars (source of).
But anybody can see on the CARFAX reports of many desirable factory-backed CPO cars were they are sourced from. No industry experience needed.
Therefore my comment was about CPO cars (source of).
08-24-10, 07:03 PM
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For what it's worth, your salesman is simply shooting you a line of complete and utter BS. I have worked in a few different car dealerships and also worked on the manufacturer side, and can promise you that 9 times out of 10 used cars are bought at an auction, whether internal (withing a dealer group, manufacturer, region) or external.
On rare occasions a car will be traded in and then go on the used car lot at that same dealership, but not frequently. Many people have the same perception that your salesman was shooting for - "Oh well since the lot is full of BMWs, Mercedes, Lexus, McLarens, Bugattis, and Fiskers, those must have been traded in for Hyundais!"
Wrong. In fact, some dealerships who are really aggressively pushing new models will go to auction and buy competing models and put them on platforms in the used car dept/lot to try and deliberately give that impression and draw attention.
On rare occasions a car will be traded in and then go on the used car lot at that same dealership, but not frequently. Many people have the same perception that your salesman was shooting for - "Oh well since the lot is full of BMWs, Mercedes, Lexus, McLarens, Bugattis, and Fiskers, those must have been traded in for Hyundais!"
Wrong. In fact, some dealerships who are really aggressively pushing new models will go to auction and buy competing models and put them on platforms in the used car dept/lot to try and deliberately give that impression and draw attention.
They are bought at an auction for cheap
Person that shops at non luxury brand has less money and worse credit
Person sees luxury cars at Kia/Hyundai lot
Dealership has tripled the price of the car
Person buys used luxury car there at a higher interest rate with less money down
Then they go buy huge knock off wheels, cheap springs and say "Hey I am VIP style I need friends"
08-25-10, 09:38 AM
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wow I wish the sorento did a 25 mpg mixed but it looks more like it does 22mpg mixed.
great looking suv! but there's been some reports that something is bad with the tranny, I don't think it's selling very well so 18K plus ttl might be possible on this bad boy!
great looking suv! but there's been some reports that something is bad with the tranny, I don't think it's selling very well so 18K plus ttl might be possible on this bad boy!