GM revives rear-wheel sedans for Chevy, Cadillac
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I'm already tired of the Escalade-derived non-aero so-called Art and Science look of the current lineup. With the CTS as the only strong seller (and that's been fading somewhat lately), a focus on its mainstream products would be more productive. The sales resistance to a $100K+ Cadillac is obvious to those that buy premium cars for a variety of reasons (many of which have been mentioned already).
*** Art and Science styling is nothing more than a failed take on retroism and a total lack of styling progression into modern times. Cadillac had absolutely no clue how to compete with Lexus, Mercedes, or BMW and so the Art and Science moniker came up to warm over another failed GM styling idea. (The word Bail-Out just popped into mind.) Art and Science flavor is nothing more than peddling the idea that you get girls by eating a messy Carl's Jr hamburger. Same American shallowness, cheesiness, sloppiness, obnoxiousness, and lack of polish.
This concludes today's lesson.
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Of course, Cadillac is not alone in the anti-aero look. There are also vehicles like the Scion xB, Kia Soul, Nissan Cube, Honda Element, Mustang/Camaro/Challenger, etc.....
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And the most significant jelly bean style car (and it was very ugly for sure) was the previous Ford Taurus, a car of the past. I brought up my styling point of view regarding Escalade-like artzy fartzy science especially as it relates to sales resistance in the American car place. Yeah whatever we can all come up with names and overused cliches like aero/jelly-bean/humpback whale or even artzy fartzy science, like Cadillac.
Not aware of any humpback whale cars, since I have some experience on humpback whale sightings as I saw them from a boat once. But unlike geezer-pleazers of the past, I happen to like the successful CLS, Sonata, etc. which I know you don't like. Yes I know you like old style Amantis, the past Sonata, body on frame station wagons, vinyl roofs, velour seats, white wall tires, that's cool, I remember That 70's show too (yes we've been reminded over and over and over and over and over..............).
More on topic, I think Cadillac should spend the money on its mainstream products to better establish itself as a top luxury brand. Regarding a $130K Cadillac, good luck.
Last edited by IS-SV; 09-27-10 at 08:41 PM. Reason: sp
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Ugly is ugly, which contributes to Cadillac's struggles in the market place. My styling analysis is meant as suggestions to improve on the division's success (and as a lux car business, performance is subpar still). A Caddy can still look like a Caddy without looking like a Escalade.
And the most significant jelly bean style car (and it was very ugly for sure) was the previous Ford Taurus, a car of the past.
Not aware of any humpback whale cars, since I have some experience on humpback whale sightings as I saw them from a boat once.
But unlike geezer-pleazers of the past, I happen to like the successful CLS, Sonata, etc. which I know you don't like.
Yes I know you like old style Amantis, the past Sonata, body on frame station wagons, vinyl roofs, velour seats, white wall tires, that's cool,
More on topic, I think Cadillac should spend the money on its mainstream products to better establish itself as a top luxury brand. Regarding a $130K Cadillac, good luck.
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I'm going to agree with you on this one......I doubt if there is a market for a 130K Cadillac right now. Cadillac, for example, was forced to drop the 90-100K XLR-V a few years back, from lack of sales, so it doesn't look like an even more expensive Caddy will go over very well, right now. A sedan in that price range (130K) would be bumping squarely into upper-level, non-AMG versions of the Mercedes S-Class, which is solidly-entrenched in that market. It would be like the Toyota Tundra trying to knock the Ford F-150 out of first-place truck sales......and we all know how that turned out.
Last edited by IS-SV; 09-28-10 at 07:28 AM.
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