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Old 09-24-10, 09:32 PM
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DETROIT -- Plans for a sporty, rear-wheel drive Chevrolet sedan have been revived at General Motors Co., Motor Trend reports in its upcoming November issue. The program had been mothballed over a year ago as GM was heading into bankruptcy.

Additionally, a low volume, rear-wheel sedan planned for Cadillac is expected to carry a price of around $130,000, putting it in the company of the Mercedes-Benz S class and BMW 7 Series sedan, www.motortrend.com said.

Both vehicles are expected to be introduced by mid-decade.

The cars will be developed on the automaker's next generation rwd Zeta vehicle platform. The platform will be significantly re-engineered, using high-strength steel to reduce weight, the magazine said. Two wheelbases are planned.

The unnamed Chevrolet will be developed on the shorter of the two Zeta wheelbases. The unnamed Chevrolet sedan will -- conceptually -- be a four-door Camaro, the Web site reported.

The Cadillac's styling is expected to be dramatic in an effort to draw attention to the brand in China and Europe. The car may have a few styling cues from the Cadillac Sixteen concept introduced in 2003.

The long wheelbase Zeta platform will be used for the Cadillac model. A small V-8 is under consideration.

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Old 09-24-10, 10:48 PM
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GM had all this back in the 90's but let it go. The rear drive Impala SS was a hit and could have been refined and exploited further. Now they are backpedalling, much like how they have always done. Once again, we've heard all these wonderful promises before.
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sounds awesome. I always loved cars like the GTO.
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Old 09-25-10, 07:37 AM
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Give me a break. I will believe this when I see it.
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Old 09-25-10, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Both vehicles are expected to be introduced by mid-decade.
Interesting, because that is just when the new CAFE standards take effect.

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GM had all this back in the 90's but let it go. The rear drive Impala SS was a hit and could have been refined and exploited further. Now they are backpedalling, much like how they have always done. Once again, we've heard all these wonderful promises before.
GM dumped the Impala SS, Buick Roadmaster, and Cadillac Fleetwood in 1996 to re-tool the Arlington, TX plant for then-hot-selling trucks/SUVs.

I agree, from my point of view, it was a mistake.....and I hated to see them go, too. But, from a strictly buisness point of view, the decision did help GM to produce and sell more high-demand, high-profit Silverados, Tahoes, Suburbans, etc.... Few people, at the time, were actually buying those full-size, full-frame, RWD, V8 models outside of police departments, some safety-conerned senior-citizens, and some taxi firms. However, Ford, of course, benefitted from the decision because, from 1996 on, they now had that market all to themselves.
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Old 09-25-10, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rkyat
sounds awesome. I always loved cars like the GTO.


The GTO (and the later Pontiac G8), unlike the Mustang, Camaro, Charger, and Challenger, were American in name only (except for the big GM-sourced V8). The rest of the GTO was a redone Australian Holden Monaro, and the G8 a Holden commodore.

And even the Charger/Challenger were done with a Mercedes E-Class-derived chassis/transmission....and American Hemi powerplants.
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Good luck, GM. If I'm spending $100,000+ on a car it ain't going to be American.
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Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
Good luck, GM. If I'm spending $100,000+ on a car it ain't going to be American.


Forget the old ideas of American, European, Japanese, and Korean. Those days are clearly gone....today's auto-buisness is global. In fact, in the last couple of posts above, I just gave you several examples of cars with "American" nameplates that had parts-sourcing and engineering from other countries.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Forget the old ideas of American, European, Japanese, and Korean. Those days are clearly gone....today's auto-buisness is global. In fact, in the last couple of posts above, I just gave you several examples of cars with "American" nameplates that had parts-sourcing and engineering from other countries.
Note: He's not talking about world-wide sourcing of parts, done by all major manufacturers. Common knowledge.

He's talking about the successful and highly regarded premium brands currently known as Lexus/Mercedes/BMW/Porsche being Japanese/German as prime examples. Cadillac is not in that company of premium tier 1 automakers.



But this is interesting development at GM.
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Old 09-25-10, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Cadillac is not in that company of premium tier 1 automakers.


That point is arguable. I'd agree that the DTS, despite its physical comfort, is not up there with Euro and Asian Tier 1 automakers, but several of Cadillac's other products are, particularly the CTS-V.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
That point is arguable. I'd agree that the DTS, despite its physical comfort, is not up there with Euro and Asian Tier 1 automakers, but several of Cadillac's other products are, particularly the CTS-V.
Agreed arguable like anything else on CHIT CHAT, even if not commonly accepted by those actually in these markets for real. I'm not talking about specific models, I'm talking about established Tier 1 brands though and Cadillac is sub-Tier1.

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Old 09-25-10, 07:15 PM
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Pay $130,000 for a Cadillac? Why? It will probably have a salvage value of $25,000 after 5 years... Horrible investment.

Sure, all cars depreciate to a point, but Cadillac cars become worthless after only several years. It's a joke to say the least.
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Cadlillac would be much better off investing moneys on developing a legit 7-series/A8/S-Class competitor. What's coming up looks like another glizty art and science joke that will become outdated a year after going on sale.
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I'm already tired of the Escalade-derived non-aero so-called Art and Science look of the current lineup. With the CTS as the only strong seller (and that's been fading somewhat lately), a focus on its mainstream products would be more productive. The sales resistance to a $100K+ Cadillac is obvious to those that buy premium cars for a variety of reasons (many of which have been mentioned already).
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Sounds likes good news, but I won't hold my breath
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