Toyota/Lexus styling the worst
10-02-10, 02:52 PM
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Toyota/Lexus styling the worst
In the latest C&D, Toyota/Lexus received a D+ in styling by Phil Patton, a teacher at the School of Visual Arts in NY and automobile-design writer for the NY Times.
Honda/Acura finished second to last with a C- with the only A going to Jaguar/Land Rover.
And for all you self-proclaimed design experts out there: Kia got an A- and Hyundai a B+.
Before you start whining, turn to the next article and read page 33 of the November 2010 issue of C&D. There's an article on "How to Deal with your Car Losing a C/D Comparo."
Honda/Acura finished second to last with a C- with the only A going to Jaguar/Land Rover.
And for all you self-proclaimed design experts out there: Kia got an A- and Hyundai a B+.
Before you start whining, turn to the next article and read page 33 of the November 2010 issue of C&D. There's an article on "How to Deal with your Car Losing a C/D Comparo."
10-02-10, 03:12 PM
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I sorta agree.
Toyota does cater to the masses who want vanilla. Vanilla. Toyota is happy to go to the bank selling vanilla. The business strategy works.
It's function over form. As much as we want form over function, people buy cars for functional practicality.
BTW: Mr. Patton has a long LONG history of disliking Toyota. His opinion is but one of several published designers. One designer does not represent the dozens of others who like Toyota's designs...
Toyota does cater to the masses who want vanilla. Vanilla. Toyota is happy to go to the bank selling vanilla. The business strategy works.
It's function over form. As much as we want form over function, people buy cars for functional practicality.
BTW: Mr. Patton has a long LONG history of disliking Toyota. His opinion is but one of several published designers. One designer does not represent the dozens of others who like Toyota's designs...
10-02-10, 03:12 PM
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What are the grades for other automobile manufacturers?
Was Ssangyong awarded a grade?
Was Ssangyong awarded a grade?
10-02-10, 03:15 PM
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10-02-10, 03:50 PM
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Interesting that Jaguar got an A - presumably largely on the back of the XF, a car whose designer, Ian Callum, referenced Lexus' design direction as a template for Jaguar to follow and produced a car with many similarities to the Lexus GS. 
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10-02-10, 03:58 PM
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Everyone, again, we should all trade in and sell our Lexus b/c they are ugly, slow, copies that are unreliable, unluxurious and quite possibly the worst vehicles sold. What are we thinking!
Wow, more flame bait. Thanks
Styling is subjective. C&D HATES Toyota/Lexus with a passion, from the moronic editor Alterman down.
Acura ahead of ANYONE lets me know they are smoking crack.
I can link articles and reviews where "experts" like Lexus styling but I don't intend to make this pissing match
Glad Kia/Hyundai joined the 21st century after all these years. Still the models are simply mimics of other cars/brands. How exciting.
I got $20 on 5 pages And yes Patton is smoking rocks as well as their designers and anyone that buys one.
This/Thread. I surely wont defend Toyota styling. Lexus is far better (though not perfect either).
This. Please Andy, don't bring this up. You know no one copies Lexus, Lexus copies everyone
In the latest C&D, Toyota/Lexus received a D+ in styling by Phil Patton, a teacher at the School of Visual Arts in NY and automobile-design writer for the NY Times.
Honda/Acura finished second to last with a C- with the only A going to Jaguar/Land Rover.
And for all you self-proclaimed design experts out there: Kia got an A- and Hyundai a B+.
Before you start whining, turn to the next article and read page 33 of the November 2010 issue of C&D. There's an article on "How to Deal with your Car Losing a C/D Comparo."
Honda/Acura finished second to last with a C- with the only A going to Jaguar/Land Rover.
And for all you self-proclaimed design experts out there: Kia got an A- and Hyundai a B+.
Before you start whining, turn to the next article and read page 33 of the November 2010 issue of C&D. There's an article on "How to Deal with your Car Losing a C/D Comparo."
Styling is subjective. C&D HATES Toyota/Lexus with a passion, from the moronic editor Alterman down.
Acura ahead of ANYONE lets me know they are smoking crack.
I can link articles and reviews where "experts" like Lexus styling but I don't intend to make this pissing match
Glad Kia/Hyundai joined the 21st century after all these years. Still the models are simply mimics of other cars/brands. How exciting.
And yes Patton is smoking rocks as well as their designers and anyone that buys one. I sorta agree.
Toyota does cater to the masses who want vanilla. Vanilla. Toyota is happy to go to the bank selling vanilla. The business strategy works.
It's function over form. As much as we want form over function, people buy cars for functional practicality.
BTW: Mr. Patton has a long LONG history of disliking Toyota. His opinion is but one of several published designers. One designer does not represent the dozens of others who like Toyota's designs...
Toyota does cater to the masses who want vanilla. Vanilla. Toyota is happy to go to the bank selling vanilla. The business strategy works.
It's function over form. As much as we want form over function, people buy cars for functional practicality.
BTW: Mr. Patton has a long LONG history of disliking Toyota. His opinion is but one of several published designers. One designer does not represent the dozens of others who like Toyota's designs...
10-02-10, 04:33 PM
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I don't care what these self-proclaimed so-called experts think and say, especially those idiots from C&D. In my eyes Lexus design are among the best, if not the best. Toyota design are bland but still good and acceptable looking, unlike something from BMW like 6-series which is downright hideous. Lexus designs are A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++, while most Toyota designs are at least B. Jaguar and Land Rover? Hahahahahaha. All automakers have something good looking and something not so good, so you can't just generalize a company's design. They better grade the design model by model rather than a whole brand. To me BMW designs are so polarizing, some very handsome while the rest are murdering my eyes. Audi's design is pretty good, but all the vehicles have the same look, so I can't tell if it is a A4 or A5 or A6 from my rearview mirror. M-B cars are pretty even across the lineup, but just nothing really jumps out except probably the SLS, which is unique but by no means great looking. Even Ferrari's newest 458 Italia is not as good as F430 in my opinion because that car looks too cartoonish. Seriously Lexus design is my favorite right now.
10-02-10, 05:45 PM
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In the latest C&D, Toyota/Lexus received a D+ in styling by Phil Patton, a teacher at the School of Visual Arts in NY and automobile-design writer for the NY Times.
Honda/Acura finished second to last with a C- with the only A going to Jaguar/Land Rover.
And for all you self-proclaimed design experts out there: Kia got an A- and Hyundai a B+.
Before you start whining, turn to the next article and read page 33 of the November 2010 issue of C&D. There's an article on "How to Deal with your Car Losing a C/D Comparo."
Honda/Acura finished second to last with a C- with the only A going to Jaguar/Land Rover.
And for all you self-proclaimed design experts out there: Kia got an A- and Hyundai a B+.
Before you start whining, turn to the next article and read page 33 of the November 2010 issue of C&D. There's an article on "How to Deal with your Car Losing a C/D Comparo."
Apparently if they received an A- and B+ the criteria must have been for copying every other car manufacturer out there....hence why Lexus received such low grades.
10-02-10, 05:52 PM
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In the latest C&D, Toyota/Lexus received a D+ in styling by Phil Patton, a teacher at the School of Visual Arts in NY and automobile-design writer for the NY Times.
Honda/Acura finished second to last with a C- with the only A going to Jaguar/Land Rover.
And for all you self-proclaimed design experts out there: Kia got an A- and Hyundai a B+.
Before you start whining, turn to the next article and read page 33 of the November 2010 issue of C&D. There's an article on "How to Deal with your Car Losing a C/D Comparo."
Honda/Acura finished second to last with a C- with the only A going to Jaguar/Land Rover.
And for all you self-proclaimed design experts out there: Kia got an A- and Hyundai a B+.
Before you start whining, turn to the next article and read page 33 of the November 2010 issue of C&D. There's an article on "How to Deal with your Car Losing a C/D Comparo."
This would have been a good discussion topic if you had not posted it with the intention of baiting for arguments with your title "Toyota/Lexus styling the worst" and the bolded parts above.
I'm closing this thread and asking you not to take this approach in the future. Discuss the article without posting it with the intent to anger other CL members.
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