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Old 10-04-10, 10:07 PM
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Default Kawasaki goes mad : 207-hp Kawasaki ZX-10R (NEWS: U.S. version dumbed down to 197hp!)

207 HP! Full details on the 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R

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Link to full specifications, Kawasaki Press documents

That 207-hp figure is at the crank and with the assistance of Ram air.

Without a headwind, the base 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R makes a paltry 197-hp, PFFFT!!!



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I suspect we'll see some of these on eBay soon...or parts of these.
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Bye bye beemer.
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holy crap....I would be a little intimidated....at first......


a few years ago I took a ZX9 from 0 up to 151mph on an old country road and had it filmed (a few times).....definitely an adrenaline rush.
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I'm waiting to see what they do with the 14 and Busa. I think the time to upgrade is coming. Looks like the BMW has lit a fire under someone's A$$, about time!

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Holy fack that's nuts. We (the U.S.) really need to make it tougher for people to get their hands on bikes like these. In other words, just because you can get a motorcycle license on a 250cc bike doesn't mean you shuold be able to walk into a dealer and buy something this powerful.

Hell I've been riding for a while and have more than 80k miles under my belt but this thing scares the crap outta me!
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Press Release

The 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R isn’t significant because it makes a couple horsepower more than any liter bike before it. It isn’t significant because it weighs a couple kilos less, nor because it brings very high-quality to components to a presumably very-low price. The 2011 ZX-10R is significant because it’s the first motorcycle to use electronic aids — traction control and ABS — to make it faster, not simply to serve as a safety net. The 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R will be the fastest liter bike ever.

Let’s back up for a second and take a look at those not-so-significant specs. When the next Ninja leaked last week we discovered it made 197-hp (207-hp with the aid of ram-air). Then, when we compared the specs of all the 2011 superbikes, we saw that not only did that number beat the BMW S1000RR by 4bhp, but also that the ZX-10R managed to weigh in at just 198kg (wet), 6kg lighter than the Bimmer. That gives the Ninja an all-conquering power-to-weight ratio of .99:1, the previous king of the liter bike hill, the S1000RR, only manages .95:1 in the same comparison. In previous years, such a performance advantage would have been enough for any maker to call it quits. Lighter? Check. More powerful? Check. Game over. Not for 2011.

In addition to those unprecedented numbers, the ZX-10R is equipped with some seriously impressive running gear for a showroom stock Japanese superbike. Forks are Showa Big Piston items, which ditch the traditional cartridge for a huge simplification of parts, reducing unsprung weight and increasing damping control. Rear suspension, too, is super fancy. The horizontal orientation of the piggyback shock is claimed to not only improve mass centralization, but cooling and smooth action through the complete range of compression too. There’s also an Ohlins steering damper, spec’d to keep newly steep front suspension under control and a slipper clutch, designed, like all such items, to keep the rear wheel from locking during rapid downshifts. Three-spoke gravity-cast wheels look straight out of the 1990s, but aren’t, ditching 330g of unsprung weight at the front and 490g at the rear. Elsewhere there’s a front brake with radial calipers and a radial pump for the master cylinder and even adjustable foot pegs. All the above sound like the preserve of high-dollar European bikes, right?

But so far, so conventional, even if impressively spec’d. Like we said before, it’s the new traction control system and ABS that are really going to make this a significant motorcycle.

On most bikes, traction control is a welcome addition. Typically only cutting in when you’ve managed to overcome the back wheel’s traction with throttle, it feels like a gigantic hand gently nudging you back into a straight line. Nice, helpful, not terribly sexy. That’s not how the ZX-10R’s MotoGP-derived “Sport Kawasaki TRaction Control” is going to work. Wonky captilization intentional.

S-KTRC constantly monitors the separate speeds of the front and rear wheels, engine RPM, throttle position, acceleration and other factors, using those parameters to determine the best course of action. Where previous systems were slow to react — thereby allowing too much rear tire slippage — and harsh to respond — thereby slowing the bike down — S-KTRC recognizes that a small amount of slip delivers the best possible acceleration. Because it can react every five milliseconds, altering engine ignition to suit, the system can start working as slippage approached the optimal degree, then hold it precisely there as the bike continues to accelerate to the maximum potential of available grip.

S-KTRC is even designed to allow power wheelies while the bike continues to accelerate, but can cut in to handle abrupt, dangerous and slow wheelies that could cause you to lose speed or crash.

S-KTRC operates in three, rider-controlled modes designed to work everywhere from wet streets to dry tracks. A three-level power switch complements S-KTRC, allowing riders to alter power delivery to be appropriate for conditions.

S-KTRC is standard on the 2011 ZX-10R, but the whizz-bang “Kawasaki Intelligent anti-lock Brake System” is going to be an option. Where previous systems have worked like you’d expect ABS brakes should — preventing locked wheels to maximize braking potential — KIBS is designed to deliver performance benefits too.

Like the traction control, KIBS monitors a variety of factors including throttle position, engine speed, clutch actuation and the hydraulic pressure being applied to the calipers to determine the best possible course for activation. Also like the traction control, KIBS has been designed to avoid harsh dips and troughs of application, instead delivering smooth retardation in place of the grab, let go, grab, let go ABS cycle. Not only should this shorten brake distances, but Kawasaki claims the precise control should eliminate spikes in front brake pressure during heavy braking while riding very quickly, thereby reducing the rear wheel’s tendency to lift. That’s a performance benefit, increasing traction and thereby maximum braking power while decelerating.

KIBS also accounts for rear wheels slides induced by downshifts, allowing them where most ABS systems would cut in to prevent the loss of traction. The system adds only 6.6lbs of weight to the ZX-10R, most of which is located virtually inside the center of gravity as the Bosch ABS computer is positioned inside the frame, just behind the cylinders.

All this should add up to a motorcycle that not only follows the new liter bike convention of less weight and more power, but one that enables its rider to exploit those headline figures to an unprecedented degree. The 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R isn’t just the fastest liter bike ever, it’s the most technologically advanced too.
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Well looks like the new toy I will be getting in the spring of 2011!!!
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Press Release

The 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R isn’t significant because it makes a couple horsepower more than any liter bike before it. It isn’t significant because it weighs a couple kilos less, nor because it brings very high-quality to components to a presumably very-low price. The 2011 ZX-10R is significant because it’s the first motorcycle to use electronic aids — traction control and ABS — to make it faster, not simply to serve as a safety net. The 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R will be the fastest liter bike ever.

Let’s back up for a second and take a look at those not-so-significant specs. When the next Ninja leaked last week we discovered it made 197-hp (207-hp with the aid of ram-air). Then, when we compared the specs of all the 2011 superbikes, we saw that not only did that number beat the BMW S1000RR by 4bhp, but also that the ZX-10R managed to weigh in at just 198kg (wet), 6kg lighter than the Bimmer. That gives the Ninja an all-conquering power-to-weight ratio of .99:1, the previous king of the liter bike hill, the S1000RR, only manages .95:1 in the same comparison. In previous years, such a performance advantage would have been enough for any maker to call it quits. Lighter? Check. More powerful? Check. Game over. Not for 2011.

In addition to those unprecedented numbers, the ZX-10R is equipped with some seriously impressive running gear for a showroom stock Japanese superbike. Forks are Showa Big Piston items, which ditch the traditional cartridge for a huge simplification of parts, reducing unsprung weight and increasing damping control. Rear suspension, too, is super fancy. The horizontal orientation of the piggyback shock is claimed to not only improve mass centralization, but cooling and smooth action through the complete range of compression too. There’s also an Ohlins steering damper, spec’d to keep newly steep front suspension under control and a slipper clutch, designed, like all such items, to keep the rear wheel from locking during rapid downshifts. Three-spoke gravity-cast wheels look straight out of the 1990s, but aren’t, ditching 330g of unsprung weight at the front and 490g at the rear. Elsewhere there’s a front brake with radial calipers and a radial pump for the master cylinder and even adjustable foot pegs. All the above sound like the preserve of high-dollar European bikes, right?

But so far, so conventional, even if impressively spec’d. Like we said before, it’s the new traction control system and ABS that are really going to make this a significant motorcycle.

On most bikes, traction control is a welcome addition. Typically only cutting in when you’ve managed to overcome the back wheel’s traction with throttle, it feels like a gigantic hand gently nudging you back into a straight line. Nice, helpful, not terribly sexy. That’s not how the ZX-10R’s MotoGP-derived “Sport Kawasaki TRaction Control” is going to work. Wonky captilization intentional.

S-KTRC constantly monitors the separate speeds of the front and rear wheels, engine RPM, throttle position, acceleration and other factors, using those parameters to determine the best course of action. Where previous systems were slow to react — thereby allowing too much rear tire slippage — and harsh to respond — thereby slowing the bike down — S-KTRC recognizes that a small amount of slip delivers the best possible acceleration. Because it can react every five milliseconds, altering engine ignition to suit, the system can start working as slippage approached the optimal degree, then hold it precisely there as the bike continues to accelerate to the maximum potential of available grip.

S-KTRC is even designed to allow power wheelies while the bike continues to accelerate, but can cut in to handle abrupt, dangerous and slow wheelies that could cause you to lose speed or crash.

S-KTRC operates in three, rider-controlled modes designed to work everywhere from wet streets to dry tracks. A three-level power switch complements S-KTRC, allowing riders to alter power delivery to be appropriate for conditions.

S-KTRC is standard on the 2011 ZX-10R, but the whizz-bang “Kawasaki Intelligent anti-lock Brake System” is going to be an option. Where previous systems have worked like you’d expect ABS brakes should — preventing locked wheels to maximize braking potential — KIBS is designed to deliver performance benefits too.

Like the traction control, KIBS monitors a variety of factors including throttle position, engine speed, clutch actuation and the hydraulic pressure being applied to the calipers to determine the best possible course for activation. Also like the traction control, KIBS has been designed to avoid harsh dips and troughs of application, instead delivering smooth retardation in place of the grab, let go, grab, let go ABS cycle. Not only should this shorten brake distances, but Kawasaki claims the precise control should eliminate spikes in front brake pressure during heavy braking while riding very quickly, thereby reducing the rear wheel’s tendency to lift. That’s a performance benefit, increasing traction and thereby maximum braking power while decelerating.

KIBS also accounts for rear wheels slides induced by downshifts, allowing them where most ABS systems would cut in to prevent the loss of traction. The system adds only 6.6lbs of weight to the ZX-10R, most of which is located virtually inside the center of gravity as the Bosch ABS computer is positioned inside the frame, just behind the cylinders.

All this should add up to a motorcycle that not only follows the new liter bike convention of less weight and more power, but one that enables its rider to exploit those headline figures to an unprecedented degree. The 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R isn’t just the fastest liter bike ever, it’s the most technologically advanced too.
The fat lady did not sing yet. Just because the 10 has a couple more hp and a couple less pounds does not mean it automatically makes it faster/quicker. Also doesn’t the BMW have all the nannies that are coming on the 10? The way it looks to me is Kawasaki and the others are just playing catch up. What they should have done was redesign the 10 to have over 200 hp at the rear wheel. Also the big dogs (14 & Busa) have not even gotten in the game yet!

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I am not sold on the way the rear end looks...
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This is quite the sports bike!
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Originally Posted by Koz
The fat lady did not sing yet. Just because the 10 has a couple more hp and a couple less pounds does not mean it automatically makes it faster/quicker. Also doesn’t the BMW have all the nannies that are coming on the 10? The way it looks to me is Kawasaki and the others are just playing catch up. What they should have done was redesign the 10 to have over 200 hp at the rear wheel. Also the big dogs (14 & Busa) have not even gotten in the game yet!

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Wut?!?

So you want this to have 230hp just to be competitive? Even BMW has just around 160-170 at a wheel. Problem with horsepower in a bike is not the amount of it but putting it all on the ground while attaining the agility and comfort that makes superbike a superbike, you know that come on.
Civilized traction control is just a start so we migh see 200+ bikes very soon but not 230.
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stop comparing the zx-10 to the busa and 14r. they arent the same bike and are not made to do the same things. of course the 1400 kawi and 1300 busa are gonna make more power because its 400 and 300 cc's more. as a previous owner of two zx-10s i have to say it was a little bulky but had absolutely no problems with it. also whats the difference in price of the BMW liter vs. a jap liter? should be a substantial amount. you arent getting that much out of it that requires overpaying for a street bike.

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Originally Posted by Koz
The fat lady did not sing yet. Just because the 10 has a couple more hp and a couple less pounds does not mean it automatically makes it faster/quicker. Also doesn’t the BMW have all the nannies that are coming on the 10? The way it looks to me is Kawasaki and the others are just playing catch up. What they should have done was redesign the 10 to have over 200 hp at the rear wheel. Also the big dogs (14 & Busa) have not even gotten in the game yet!
Originally Posted by patrickgs3
stop comparing the zx-10 to the busa and 14r. they arent the same bike and are not made to do the same things. of course the 1400 kawi and 1300 busa are gonna make more power because its 400 and 300 cc's more. as a previous owner of two zx-10s i have to say it was a little bulky but had absolutely no problems with it. also whats the difference in price of the BMW liter vs. a jap liter? should be a substantial amount. you arent getting that much out of it that requires overpaying for a street bike.
Patrick, please be polite. No name calling.


And yes, I agree with Patrick that the ZX-10R and the 'Busa are completely different animals. It's like comparing an M3 coupe and an M6. Both motorcycles should never be compared other than the fact they have family resemblance.

As far as price is concerned, the current 2010 ZX-10R MSPR is $13,799 (it may increase for the new 2011 model). The BMW S1000RR is $13,800. It's a $1 difference.

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sorry didnt mean to come off that way. you sure bmw doesn't jack that price through the roof. I cant see them charging anything less than $15k for a flagship motorcycle. Just like mv agusta gets off charging in the 20's along with other well known brands.
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