2011 NHTSA crash test A LOT more stringent: Toyota Camry rated 3 stars
#1
2011 NHTSA crash test A LOT more stringent: Camry rated 3 stars, Versa 2 stars
And the only 5-star winners so far? The 5-series and the Sonata.
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop.../2011+Vehicles
Time for Toyota to wake up.
P.S. Hate the design of the web page. Have to click through for every car model. Don't have time to copy and paste the result of every model here. Sorry.
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop.../2011+Vehicles
Time for Toyota to wake up.
P.S. Hate the design of the web page. Have to click through for every car model. Don't have time to copy and paste the result of every model here. Sorry.
Last edited by Mister Two; 10-07-10 at 08:42 AM.
#2
Not just Toyota. You made it sound biased like it's only Toyota that has issues.
Every automaker needs to realize that the NHTSA is making their crash tests more "real". Power and weight of cars have significantly gone up, and therefore crash tests need to be more comprehensive.
Every automaker needs to realize that the NHTSA is making their crash tests more "real". Power and weight of cars have significantly gone up, and therefore crash tests need to be more comprehensive.
#3
And the only 5-star winners so far? The 5-series and the Sonata.
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop.../2011+Vehicles
Time for Toyota to wake up.
P.S. Hate the design of the web page. Have to click through for every car model. Don't have time to copy and paste the result of every model here. Sorry.
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop.../2011+Vehicles
Time for Toyota to wake up.
P.S. Hate the design of the web page. Have to click through for every car model. Don't have time to copy and paste the result of every model here. Sorry.
#4
Sorry but it seems that the Toyota Camry is the only car that got rated 3 stars. All others get at least 4 stars. To be fair, though, the Camry is among the oldest model tested here. I'm sure the next-gen Camry will do far better.
#6
The old "Stars on Cars" system, which assessed vehicles on front-end and side-impact crashes and rollovers, was started in 1979, and it has helped build interest in car safety equipment.
The changes to the old system come as too many cars were receiving top marks, which made it difficult to distinguish the best performers.
The new system takes into account the crash prevention technology some new models have, and it includes a new test that simulates a car crashing into a pole. This new test also includes female dummies to see crash effects on women.
The grading system ranges from one star to five stars, five being the best. Only two of the first 33 cars tested earned a five-star rating - the 2011 BMW 5 Series and the 2011 Hyundai Sonata.
"We've raised the bar on safety - more stars, safer cars. People really have to prove to us that these cars deserve a five-star rating," said U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood.
The 2011 Nissan Versa got two stars while hybrid and conventional versions of the Toyota Camry received three stars. Another 22 vehicles will be tested later this year.
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The old "Stars on Cars" system, which assessed vehicles on front-end and side-impact crashes and rollovers, was started in 1979, and it has helped build interest in car safety equipment.
The changes to the old system come as too many cars were receiving top marks, which made it difficult to distinguish the best performers.
The new system takes into account the crash prevention technology some new models have, and it includes a new test that simulates a car crashing into a pole. This new test also includes female dummies to see crash effects on women.
The grading system ranges from one star to five stars, five being the best. Only two of the first 33 cars tested earned a five-star rating - the 2011 BMW 5 Series and the 2011 Hyundai Sonata.
"We've raised the bar on safety - more stars, safer cars. People really have to prove to us that these cars deserve a five-star rating," said U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood.
The 2011 Nissan Versa got two stars while hybrid and conventional versions of the Toyota Camry received three stars. Another 22 vehicles will be tested later this year.
The old "Stars on Cars" system, which assessed vehicles on front-end and side-impact crashes and rollovers, was started in 1979, and it has helped build interest in car safety equipment.
The changes to the old system come as too many cars were receiving top marks, which made it difficult to distinguish the best performers.
The new system takes into account the crash prevention technology some new models have, and it includes a new test that simulates a car crashing into a pole. This new test also includes female dummies to see crash effects on women.
The grading system ranges from one star to five stars, five being the best. Only two of the first 33 cars tested earned a five-star rating - the 2011 BMW 5 Series and the 2011 Hyundai Sonata.
"We've raised the bar on safety - more stars, safer cars. People really have to prove to us that these cars deserve a five-star rating," said U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood.
The 2011 Nissan Versa got two stars while hybrid and conventional versions of the Toyota Camry received three stars. Another 22 vehicles will be tested later this year.
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Not just Toyota. You made it sound biased like it's only Toyota that has issues.
Every automaker needs to realize that the NHTSA is making their crash tests more "real". Power and weight of cars have significantly gone up, and therefore crash tests need to be more comprehensive.
Every automaker needs to realize that the NHTSA is making their crash tests more "real". Power and weight of cars have significantly gone up, and therefore crash tests need to be more comprehensive.
#14
I have no problem with changing the tests, if it is done for a common-sense purpose. But I don't see the deliberate skewing of rankings, just for political and image purposes, to be common sense.
Last edited by mmarshall; 10-05-10 at 08:58 PM.
#15
I dont see any problem with them making it harder to get five star ratings. Even if a 3 star rating in the new system was a 5 star rating in the old system, no car manufacturer wants that sort of bad press -- so they will continue to improve their cars to make it safer. I always thought that crash tests didnt reflect real world scenarios seeing as how they crash their cars at 35mph or something around there. I think a majority of us are afraid of crashing during highway speeds and yet we get no rating for those speeds.