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Old 10-22-10, 08:28 AM
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http://autospeed.com/cms/A_112065/article.html

Greatread. Seems everything is in the engine compartment!! No more hybrid smug vs diesel smug, now there is a Hybrid Smug Hybrid. :P


It’s the question that’s been asked for years. If diesels give such good fuel economy, and petrol hybrids give such good fuel economy, why not produce a diesel hybrid? Amongst the first is the coming Mercedes-Benz E 300 BlueTec Hybrid.

The E 300 BlueTEC Hybrid pairs a 2.2-litre four-cylinder diesel engine developing 150 kW (204 hp) with a powerful hybrid module. Its 15kW electric motor, positioned between the internal combustion engine and the 7-speed automatic transmission, assists the diesel engine when the car is accelerating. It is also used to capture braking energy (regeneration). Finally, the vehicle can also drive on electric power alone.

The E 300 BlueTEC Hybrid consumes 4.1 litres of fuel per 100 kilometres (CO2 109 g/km). It will be launched at the end of 2011.
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The technical basis for the E 300 BlueTEC Hybrid is the E 250 CDI with a four cylinder diesel engine developing 150 kW (204 hp).

For the new hybrid model, the Mercedes-Benz engineers have used the fuel-efficient 4-cylinder diesel engine in combination with a compact electric motor developing 15 kW. The electric motor draws its energy from a high-voltage, lithium-ion battery, which has already proven itself in the S 400 Hybrid.

Despite the high overall output of up to 165 kW (224 hp) and a torque of over 580 Nm, the E 300 BlueTEC HYBRID consumes no more than 4.1 litres of fuel per 100 km (NEDC), equivalent to CO2 emissions of 109 g/km. Fuel consumption is therefore on a par with extremely efficient small cars, while the hybrid drive system outperforms current six cylinder diesel engines.

Operational strategy

The operational strategy incorporates the following principal features:

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Even at low revs, the electric motor assists the diesel engine with high torque. The result is excitingly high, clearly noticeable agility.

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When driving for longer distances or on the motorway, the intelligent electronics recognise the driving situation and automatically adjust the load point of the internal combustion engine to achieve a lower specific fuel consumption, thereby helping to save fuel and reduce emissions.

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Thanks to a clutch between the engine and the electric motor, the E 300 BlueTEC Hybrid can cover short distances at speeds of up to 35 km/h using electric drive alone. Consequently, the internal combustion engine does not even need to be started in most cases when driving in stop-and-go urban traffic or manoeuvring in parking spaces.

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The internal combustion engine in the new diesel hybrid is switched off as soon as the vehicle starts to coast down from 80 km/h; in this case, the electric motor just keeps the road speed constant. [Maybe they mean the rate of coast down is reduced? – Ed]

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The diesel engine is started smoothly as soon as the driver releases the brake pedal, presses the accelerator pedal or reaches a defined limit speed during acceleration.

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Regeneration starts as soon as the driver releases the accelerator pedal –in this case, the electric motor functions as an alternator and converts the kinetic energy into electrical energy, which is stored in the high-voltage battery. Even when braking, part of the energy is converted into electrical energy.

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The air conditioning compressor and the steering are powered electrically, meaning that both systems operate even when the internal combustion engine is not running. What's more, none of these measures restrict boot space and variability in the slightest, as all of the hybrid technology, including the high-voltage battery, is housed in the engine compartment.
 
Old 10-22-10, 08:35 AM
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Very exciting news, I was already happy with the s400 hybrid too, I'm curious to see how Lexus responds with their next hybrid hit.
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i am glad about all these directions with hybrid and diesel
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57 MPG?!?

204 HP?!?

That'll sell like hotcakes if priced right!
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
57 MPG?!?

204 HP?!?

That'll sell like hotcakes if priced right!
Actually, it's 224 HP (the electric motor/battery unit adds 20 horses )

For an E-class, this really looks well-suited for it. I've heard from locals here who've test driven the E 250 CDI and it handles quite good (even as it runs on our country's dirty and crappy Euro II diesel fuel ). The only slight minor downside is that it only uses 5 speed auto gearbox (7G TRONIC for the E-class is only reserved for six-cylinder models and higher). Other than that, the car works well as what they've said.

So in a nutshell:
It's an E250 CDI + two extra gears + electric motor/battery unit = MB's very first production diesel-hybrid model

It seems to combine the best of both worlds by having the fuel efficiency of a hybrid vehicle suited for city and stop-and-go traffic as well as the mileage and smoothness of a diesel vehicle on highways/motorways.

Nice

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However, if they plan to do this kind of setup on the S-class (possibly next-gen model), I'd suggest that they use a six-cylinder engine (then pair it with an electric motor/battery unit).

I'm still not convinced that a vehicle in this segment should even be getting four-bangers in the first place.

So yeah, at least V6 engine and nothing less than that

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VERY nice! Can't wait to see this tech in more cars...
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i was reading an article on the wsj and it basically talked about how Mercedes is putting a lot of resources into many different kinds of alternative power. Their thought process is that no single choice will be a good alternative for the masses, so they are creating diesels for people who need to tow things (ML, GL) and then hybrids for cruisers (S, ML) and I guess now diesel hybrids. Smart choices if you ask me; they didnt put all their eggs in one basket
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I love this. Hey Acura quit your B.S "technology" marketing fluff to sheep. THIS is technology.Adding a late 6 speed auto is not technology lol. Amazing that Benz has figured out a way to put it ALL in the engine bay!

Could be a game changer. Kudos to Mercedes.
 
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nice!!!!

always wondered what the hold up for diesel hybrids was.
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sounds like this is another mild hybrid though.
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Originally Posted by RXSF
sounds like this is another mild hybrid though.
True but it seems to be pretty good on paper. We will see next year.

VW said diesel hybrids make no sense so I wonder will they now respond?

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