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Old 10-27-10, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Here IL picks the Oddy over the Sienna.

You will notice both reviews basically call it a tie and barely pick one over the other. They seem to like both.

Of note to me was the fact MT likes how the Sienna SE handles over the Oddy but IL likes how the Oddy handles over the Sienna XLE.

http://www.insideline.com/honda/odys...ison-test.html
MT compares the non-sport version of Oddy to the sport version of Sienna and likes the Sienna better, while IL compares the sport version of Oddy to the non-sport version of the Sienna and likes the Oddy better. How surprising.

Why neither of them did an apple-to-apple comparison is beyond me. Did the manufacturers refuse giving the media the trim levels they requested or what?

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Old 10-27-10, 05:44 PM
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Man these vans are not minivans anymore! Why can't they make them the size of my Mazda that's what I want! Look at the acceleration time of the Sienna makes my car feel like a turtle. Sienna FTW in terms of looks, and interior of Odyssey = perfect van
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Old 10-27-10, 05:52 PM
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I don't like how the Sienna and Odyssey are starting to look like Darth Vader from the front.

I like the Odyssey's interior much better, but the Sienna wins in the drivetrain area. Honda needs to update their engine, and not just enlarge the cylinder bore.
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Old 10-27-10, 06:43 PM
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i just can't keep up with these minivans. it's like they're averaging at least 90mph on the hwy
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Old 10-28-10, 01:27 AM
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Great to see a major magazine grilling Honda for the silly decision to equip the 6-speed only on top trim models.

So much for the Odyssey's superior EPA mileage. In MT's real world test, the Sienna got better average fuel economy than the Odyssey despite being more powerful and having lower EPA ratings.

I agree with spywolf, Toyota needs to find a way to better tune its powertrains for high EPA ratings, as long as it is not detrimental to real-world driving in any way.

Also love this quote:

Originally Posted by Motor Trend
The official excuse is that the ugly slashes allow the Honda to offer more interior third-row shoulder space, but that's bunk because the narrower Sienna manages more shoulder room with tidy door tracks.
Total excuse fail by Honda here.
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Old 10-28-10, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nayilsi
i just can't keep up with these minivans. it's like they're averaging at least 90mph on the hwy
ha ha I fully agree. Sometimes I catch myself laughing at the person whose driving. Why on earth are you driving a minivan 90mph and alone.
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Old 10-28-10, 07:45 AM
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Toyota is the only one that offers AWD, right?
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Old 10-28-10, 08:09 AM
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The Caravan looks sooo hideous, cheap, and outdated it's almost a crime that they're even in these comparisons...
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Old 10-28-10, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Toyota is the only one that offers AWD, right?

Yup. I think the last minivan that had AWD was the Grand Caravan and Town and Country, back in 2004.
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Old 10-28-10, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rogers2
ha ha I fully agree. Sometimes I catch myself laughing at the person whose driving. Why on earth are you driving a minivan 90mph and alone.
I totally agree. Most of them drivers are females also-now you know why they call them "mad-mom in minivans"

and this is why ask mb wth do they have an R63???

Originally Posted by GSteg
I don't like how the Sienna and Odyssey are starting to look like Darth Vader from the front.
I guess this is is why I like the SE
I don't see that in the odyssey
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Old 10-28-10, 10:55 AM
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I don't understand the complaints about the interior. I sat in one a couple months ago and it was better in terms of style from the previous generation. However, quality wise it did not seem that much worse since the 2004-2010 Sienna's interior quality was average already. Only when comparing to Honda's interior can the difference made seen.
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