MT: 1. Toyota Sienna SE, 2. Honda Odyssey EX-L 3. Dodge Caravan SXT
10-26-10, 11:31 PM
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MT: 1. Toyota Sienna SE, 2. Honda Odyssey EX-L 3. Dodge Caravan SXT
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
Funny they said what I said about the 6 speed auto
1st Place: Toyota Sienna SE
Brilliant (for a minivan) driving dynamics and intelligent second- and third-row packaging make for the smartest choice. The good looks don't hurt its case.
2nd Place: Honda Odyssey EX-L
The rich interior isn't enough to make up for this giant's doldrums driving dynamics or goofy exterior treatment. Interior packaging isn't as good as in the Toyota, either.
3rd Place: Dodge Caravan SXT
Stow 'n' Go is still good enough to let this otherwise dated Dodge play with the big boys. A refresh is coming, and not a minute too soon.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz13XQKll32
Brilliant (for a minivan) driving dynamics and intelligent second- and third-row packaging make for the smartest choice. The good looks don't hurt its case.
2nd Place: Honda Odyssey EX-L
The rich interior isn't enough to make up for this giant's doldrums driving dynamics or goofy exterior treatment. Interior packaging isn't as good as in the Toyota, either.
3rd Place: Dodge Caravan SXT
Stow 'n' Go is still good enough to let this otherwise dated Dodge play with the big boys. A refresh is coming, and not a minute too soon.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz13XQKll32
Funny they said what I said about the 6 speed auto
You can get an Odyssey with a six-speed, but you still can't choose your own gears, and it's available only in the Odyssey Touring, which starts at $41,535. I won't say who said it, but one editor opined, "Honda needs to pull its head out of its *** and offer [the six-speed automatic] across the board."
10-27-10, 03:52 AM
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Here's why: The Odyssey's high-tech, VVT 3.5-liter V-6 with cylinder deactivation managed 21.1 mpg over 11 laps of our roughly 30-mile mixed driving loop. The Toyota Sienna, meanwhile, with its comparatively low-tech (i.e., no cylinder deactivation), 3.5-liter V-6, managed 21.3 mpg. And the Toyota makes 17 more horsepower than the Honda, 265 compared with 248. Equipped with the six-speed and cylinder deactivation, the Odyssey would have likely added 1 mpg (as the Touring does in city and highway EPA ratings).
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz13YTDjo1Q
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz13YTDjo1Q
10-27-10, 06:57 AM
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Here IL picks the Oddy over the Sienna.
You will notice both reviews basically call it a tie and barely pick one over the other. They seem to like both.
Of note to me was the fact MT likes how the Sienna SE handles over the Oddy but IL likes how the Oddy handles over the Sienna XLE.
http://www.insideline.com/honda/odys...ison-test.html
You will notice both reviews basically call it a tie and barely pick one over the other. They seem to like both.
Of note to me was the fact MT likes how the Sienna SE handles over the Oddy but IL likes how the Oddy handles over the Sienna XLE.
http://www.insideline.com/honda/odys...ison-test.html
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10-27-10, 07:06 AM
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Irregardless as to my bias to the Sienna ()... drive all 3 back-to-back and then sit in them and play with all the features, it will still come out this way:
1. Sienna
2. Odyssey
3. Caravan
Then OWN them and this will happen:
1. Sienna
2. Odyssey
3. Caravan
The Swagger Wagon rules
)... drive all 3 back-to-back and then sit in them and play with all the features, it will still come out this way:1. Sienna
2. Odyssey
3. Caravan
Then OWN them and this will happen:
1. Sienna
2. Odyssey
3. Caravan
The Swagger Wagon rules
10-27-10, 08:52 AM
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I just saw the Odyssey on the street the other day in the dark red... not as bad looking as a white one. I am interested to discover the interior material, fit and finish of the new Odyssey.
As for the Sienna, too bad I have to ditch it for its sub par interior quality. The Sienna SE has a killer look for a minivan though... too bad.
As for the Sienna, too bad I have to ditch it for its sub par interior quality. The Sienna SE has a killer look for a minivan though... too bad.
10-27-10, 09:11 AM
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I have to take issue with some of the statements in the article (not with you, Mike, but what the editors put in). First, their statement that the VW Routan is a rebadged Dodge Caravan is not true. The Routan does use the Chrysler platform (you can see that in the plant-stamping badges attached to it), but the entire body/interior and equipment on it are markedly different. Second, they are wrong when they say that the Korean minivans (Hyundai Entourage and Kia Sedona) are not competitive. They (arguably) give you more for your money than either the Sienna or Odyssey, and gavenally have better quality/reliability than the comparably-priced Dodge Caravan. And, unless I just missed it in the article somewhere (someone correct me if I'm wrong) , the author did not mention a VERY important point....the Sienna is the only North-American-market minivan available with optional AWD, a big selling-point.
10-27-10, 10:11 AM
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If odyssey removed that zigzag line and have a crease that goes from the power door track all the way to the front (like the old model), it won't look as bad. Or, just stick the damn track under the 3rd window like what everyone is doing.
I do give credit the 2nd row middle seat-it's bigger than the pathetic sienna
I just saw the Odyssey on the street the other day in the dark red... not as bad looking as a white one. I am interested to discover the interior material, fit and finish of the new Odyssey.
As for the Sienna, too bad I have to ditch it for its sub par interior quality. The Sienna SE has a killer look for a minivan though... too bad.
As for the Sienna, too bad I have to ditch it for its sub par interior quality. The Sienna SE has a killer look for a minivan though... too bad.
toyota did cheap out on the standard options over the last gen:
1) took out powered 3 window
2) took out homelink
in return, back up camera, alloy wheels, projector headlights, and other little touches are standard
yes, they use the hard material like the 1st gen venza and one area of the radio have a 1/16" lift (been meaning to post pictures but most don't care about minivans
), it's still good quality (better than the domestic quality)I had a caravan as a rental and it wasn't bad. Much improved over the previous gen
10-27-10, 11:45 AM
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And I did a 4-hour roundtrip 2 weeks ago in a 2011 XLE... PLENTY of space for me 5'10" in 2nd row AND 6'2" guy in 3rd row... had my legs fairly stretched... plan to replace our 05 with another one day when needed
with either SE or AWD XLE or Limited