Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Hourglass traffic light concept is street racing's best friend

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-21-10, 12:03 PM
  #1  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,305
Received 125 Likes on 83 Posts
Default Hourglass traffic light concept is street racing's best friend

Hourglass traffic light concept is street racing's best friend



Designer Thanva Tivawong has come up with a solution for all you impatient drivers out there. What if you knew exactly when a stoplight was going to change from green to yellow, or more importantly, from red to green? In theory, traffic would be expedited and drivers would be less likely to try to beat yellow lights in the rush to make good time. That's exactly the logic behind the hourglass stoplight concept you see above. As time soldiers on, the pixels in the light drain from top to bottom. When time's up, the light changes color and the process starts all over again.

There are a couple of problems with this notion. First, colorblind drivers are left completely in the cold. More importantly, we're also concerned about the idea of basically turning every intersection into a drag strip, complete with fully-functional Christmas trees. It'd be great for the street racing scene, sure, but we don't want to give the granny in the lane next to us an excuse to lay down her best ETA when the light goes green.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/20/h...s-best-friend/
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 01:25 PM
  #2  
bnizzle87
Lexus Fanatic
 
bnizzle87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 5,595
Received 60 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

this is an interesting concept. i thought the intersections with the number countdown for pedestrians crossing the street made for a good enough indication for when a light was set to go from green to yellow to red.
bnizzle87 is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 01:28 PM
  #3  
RX_330
Lexus Test Driver
 
RX_330's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,388
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bnizzle87
this is an interesting concept. i thought the intersections with the number countdown for pedestrians crossing the street made for a good enough indication for when a light was set to go from green to yellow to red.
That's how I've always predicted green -> yellow lights as well. That and typically (in Michigan at least) when the flashing red hand goes from blinking to solid, you have about 2 seconds for the traffic light to turn yellow.
RX_330 is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 01:36 PM
  #4  
mex lex
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (4)
 
mex lex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Kyoei USA
Posts: 3,214
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bnizzle87
this is an interesting concept. i thought the intersections with the number countdown for pedestrians crossing the street made for a good enough indication for when a light was set to go from green to yellow to red.
Same here, but in my city, as I'm sure in all other cities too, every intersection is different. Some will turn yellow as soon as the pedestrian signal turns to a flashing hand, others will flash for another minute until the light turns yellow, etc. It all depends on the size of the intersection and how busy it is. If they were all consistent, it would be even easier for drivers to predict the lights.
mex lex is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 01:42 PM
  #5  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 91,314
Received 87 Likes on 86 Posts
Default


More importantly, we're also concerned about the idea of basically turning every intersection into a drag strip, complete with fully-functional Christmas trees. It'd be great for the street racing scene, sure, but we don't want to give the granny in the lane next to us an excuse to lay down her best ETA when the light goes green.
Today, though, in many larger urban areas, there are so many traffic lights that just the relatively short distances between them discourages speeding and drag-racing. Even if it were legal (which it isn't), there's little point in driving NHRA-style if you have to hit the brakes again almost as soon as you start to accelerate. That is simply a result of our population growth and increasing congestion on the roads.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 04:19 PM
  #6  
dunnojack
Lexus Fanatic
 
dunnojack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: californication
Posts: 6,806
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default




won't help.

when people see that yellow light with "1" left on the ticker, they will still gun it to beat the red.

it probably gives them more cajones knowing how many seconds are left on the yellow, so they can turbo boost through the intersection.
dunnojack is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 05:01 PM
  #7  
RXSF
Moderator
 
RXSF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,052
Likes: 0
Received 73 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

I also use pedestrian timers to know when the light changes, however, there are those few outliers out there that remain green when the seconds are up!
RXSF is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 05:39 PM
  #8  
jadu
live.love.laugh.lexus

iTrader: (42)
 
jadu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CALI
Posts: 11,581
Received 89 Likes on 71 Posts
Default

amazing what they do with LED's
jadu is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 05:59 PM
  #9  
daelo74
Driver
 
daelo74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

When I was in Shanghai this past summer, I saw the stoplights with timers on them on the red, yellow, and green and I wonder how come in the US of A, we don't have this.
daelo74 is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 06:04 PM
  #10  
Jewcano
No Sir, I Don't Like It

iTrader: (4)
 
Jewcano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Jax, FL
Posts: 8,754
Received 11 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by daelo74
When I was in Shanghai this past summer, I saw the stoplights with timers on them on the red, yellow, and green and I wonder how come in the US of A, we don't have this.
Probably because many people in the US can't count, let alone drive.
Jewcano is offline  
Old 11-21-10, 08:58 PM
  #11  
superchan7
Lead Lap
 
superchan7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: California
Posts: 638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

China has had LED timers for ages. Not that it makes traffic there terribly orderly...
superchan7 is offline  
Old 11-22-10, 12:46 AM
  #12  
Jetfire
Royale with cheese
iTrader: (3)
 
Jetfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,098
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

from green to yellow, just use the pedestrian light.

for red to green, just use the perpendicular traffic light.
Jetfire is offline  
Old 11-22-10, 12:58 AM
  #13  
Rash
hmm
iTrader: (1)
 
Rash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: dxb
Posts: 12,126
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

What we have is the best, the old fashioned way but before the green turns yellow, the green keeps blinking for around 3-5 seconds.
Rash is offline  
Old 11-22-10, 08:25 AM
  #14  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 91,314
Received 87 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by superchan7
China has had LED timers for ages. Not that it makes traffic there terribly orderly...
True. The accident/injury/death rate on Chinese roads is many times that of the U.S.

Originally Posted by Jewcano
Probably because many people in the US can't count, let alone drive.
Red-light-timers or not, taking jabs at American motorists won't make the deplorable accident-statistics in China any better than they already are.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 11-22-10, 09:01 AM
  #15  
Lexmex
Super Moderator
 
Lexmex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 17,247
Received 163 Likes on 139 Posts
Default

I used to practice at the stop lights in Mexico City for when I'd go to the track.
Lexmex is offline  


Quick Reply: Hourglass traffic light concept is street racing's best friend



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:34 PM.