EPA rates the Volt: 93 MPG-equivalent on electricity, 37 MPG gas, 60 MPG combined
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how efficient?
If Volt isnt re-using its batteries like an hybrid, it means that when out of initial electricity, it will get worse mileage then other 1.4l cars - why worse? Becuase it will be a lot heavier than them - some 400-500lbs heavier.
Meaning - it will get mileage and performance similar to Avalon powered with 1.4l engine.
If Volt isnt re-using its batteries like an hybrid, it means that when out of initial electricity, it will get worse mileage then other 1.4l cars - why worse? Becuase it will be a lot heavier than them - some 400-500lbs heavier.
Meaning - it will get mileage and performance similar to Avalon powered with 1.4l engine.
Again, the Volt won't be for everyone.
The gas engine is a backup generator, that's it. It's not a car to be driven LOOONG distances.
I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
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^^ haha pure pwnage
i forgot the exact statistics but i think its around 80~90% of america drives less than 40 miles each day in their commute
so the volt will make sense for A LOT of people regardless what the gas engine is for...
btw has GM decided to go with A123 for battery supplier?
i forgot the exact statistics but i think its around 80~90% of america drives less than 40 miles each day in their commute
so the volt will make sense for A LOT of people regardless what the gas engine is for...
btw has GM decided to go with A123 for battery supplier?
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If (when) gas gets even more expensive, the Volt will make even more sense.
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I have to admit I am a bit worried about what would happen if the Volt got Prius popular and when the Prius goes plug-in as well. In CA, they're constantly harping on us to conserve energy and what not and seeing as the elec cars will probably take off here quickly, I'm not sure if our old dilapidated energy grid can take the additional strain. How is the grid in other states?
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I think the Volt is a great idea for commuters (a large amount of people) but it is still pricey to recoup the costs it took to buy the 40k car. In reality you're not saving that much money in terms of money though versus gas (yet, if gas prices increase than yes but that can be said about electricity going up as well). People forget that just because you're running electricity instead of gas it still costs money, unless you can plug in at work and make work pay for your traveling.
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This thread has gotten too big and I haven't been on here enough to follow all of the discussion but to whoever is freaking out about it "not recharging the batteries with the generator"... this is not a design flaw. It would be a design flaw if it DID. Those batteries are meant to be charged as cheaply as possible... by a wall outlet... not the generator. The generator will run while the car is driving but only enough to maintain the base line charge and keep the car moving... no more, as to charge any more would waste your money!
It is though... it still uses regenerative braking just like any other hybrid, plus will have an optional solar roof.
Granted it has a lot more batteries than would be needed if ALL it did was regenerative braking and that will add some weight but on the flip side of the equation if you're surpassing the 40 mile mark in one day there's a pretty decent chance you're doing a lot of highway driving anyway, and highway driving (short of a traffic jam) is barely affected at all by weight.
Granted it has a lot more batteries than would be needed if ALL it did was regenerative braking and that will add some weight but on the flip side of the equation if you're surpassing the 40 mile mark in one day there's a pretty decent chance you're doing a lot of highway driving anyway, and highway driving (short of a traffic jam) is barely affected at all by weight.
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But yes, if you're someone who drives long distances all the time, then you're better off in a conventional hybrid like the Prius.
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Though on the 'long distances all the time' part... I'd tend to say you're better off not bothering with a hybrid at all. Hybrids really only benefit when you're using your brakes which isn't typically happening on highway drives.
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From our experience, we see 26-31 MPG on our regular trips from PA to South Carolina. Compare that to the 19-21 we saw in our RX300.
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Actually thats not really true. You still coast on highway drives which also recharges the battery. Not to mention, nasty stop and go traffic in construction zones or accidents is where hybrids really shine. If you keep your eye on the battery charge, which I do too much, you'll note that even while doing 75 MPH your charge won't go below 3 bars. Even uphill. Toyota's hybrid synergy drive is good at what it does.
Yes there's construction and traffic jams... that's why I said 'typically isn't happening'.
From our experience, we see 26-31 MPG on our regular trips from PA to South Carolina. Compare that to the 19-21 we saw in our RX300.
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Well, with a Toyota Prius, you can drive all day on the highway and it's EPA rated at 45 mpg. So while you get an EPA estimated 48 in the city, the slightly lower highway mileage is still superior to any other car available (non-diesel) except for the Civic Hybrid which matches it.