Pricing for All-New 2011 Lexus CT 200h to Start Below $30,000
12-21-10, 10:18 AM
#91
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You might have a point. The LFA, as you note, is an interesting case. You're talking about a 300K-plus car here, but, of course, it's also an exotic, where every pound and ounce of weight reduction is factored in, even a couple of ounces like prop-rods-vs.-struts. And, of course, the LFA is not meant to be the typical Lexus to the typical Lexus owner, but more of a Japanese Lamborghini.
12-21-10, 12:36 PM
#92
I think Aegee14 has a point here, Ryan. No matter what kind of parts they put into the suspension, IMO, no Lexus-badged product should have a simple, cheap prop-rod.
Of course, that's not necessarily a deal-breaker...........for example, I myself owned a prop-rod Lexus IS300 for some 5 years.
Of course, that's not necessarily a deal-breaker...........for example, I myself owned a prop-rod Lexus IS300 for some 5 years.
i can see where you are coming from. but on the other hand i guess it makes a bit sense to those who look for power. gsh is as fast as gs460 and better gas mileage, that's what i see.
12-21-10, 03:00 PM
#93
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12-21-10, 03:03 PM
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While I see bit's side of things and I think he is a fair and balanced guy the GSh and LSh also represented the future in 2007. Lexus is a clear step or 2/3 ahead in regards to hybrids and where the market was going. They were tremendous living test beds as well. Today BMW, Benz, Audi, Nissan, Honda are all trying to make competitors to them with even worse results (or they haven't actually sold any yet).
I mean for me, I never thought I'd be a hybrid guy or owner but they do appeal to me. Honestly outside of a F/AMG or something of that nature a regular, pedestrian vehicle doesn't really appeal to me without the hybrid tech. It would have to really be some special edition or something.
The tech will only get more efficient and smaller and better. 10 years from now we will compare the original GSh and LSh and see how far they have come.
I mean for me, I never thought I'd be a hybrid guy or owner but they do appeal to me. Honestly outside of a F/AMG or something of that nature a regular, pedestrian vehicle doesn't really appeal to me without the hybrid tech. It would have to really be some special edition or something.
The tech will only get more efficient and smaller and better. 10 years from now we will compare the original GSh and LSh and see how far they have come.
12-21-10, 03:47 PM
#95
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While I see bit's side of things and I think he is a fair and balanced guy the GSh and LSh also represented the future in 2007. Lexus is a clear step or 2/3 ahead in regards to hybrids and where the market was going. They were tremendous living test beds as well. Today BMW, Benz, Audi, Nissan, Honda are all trying to make competitors to them with even worse results (or they haven't actually sold any yet).
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12-21-10, 08:37 PM
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Honda, though, notwithstanding the fact (something which you and both agree on) that the Honda IMAs are not as well-engineered or refined as the Toyota/Lexus/Ford units, has at least been selling hybrids in the American market for 10-11 years, about the same length of time as Toyota (and longer than that in the JDM). The German companies you mentioned (BMW, Benz, and Audi) have not yet gotten around to hybrids at all here in America, and Nissan is just getting to them now. Mercedes has promised an electric/hydrogen fuel-cell A/B class, but we're still waiting for it.
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