Ohio police use Tazer seven times on driver in diabetic shock, dislocate his s
01-05-11, 07:12 AM
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Couple in labor, racing to the hospital, cited for speeding
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...et.wmur?hpt=T2
I wouldn't care if all cops had the attitude of "The law is the law and that's it". But they don't. Their attitude is "The law is there for me to enforce, not to obey".
As far as I know, there is not ONE cop...anywhere...that actually comes to a complete stop at stop signs, or before turning right-on-red. But they're HAPPY to cite you for that, every single time they see you do it, and twice on Sundays.
I cannot count the number of times I've seen a cop drive up the shoulder to get past a long line of traffic.
And I personally (not my cousin's friend once told me a guy he knew...) saw a cop roll through FIVE red lights. Was late at night...I was stopped at the first light. He slowed down at the first light, turned his blinky lights on...rolled through the red light...turned his blinky lights off. Sped up to the next light, slowed down, turned his blinky lights on...rolled through the red light...turned his blinky lights off. He did that 3 more times, through all FIVE lights.
He just didn't feel like waiting at the lights. Guess what? Neither did I!!! But, I didn't have a choice!
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...et.wmur?hpt=T2
I wouldn't care if all cops had the attitude of "The law is the law and that's it". But they don't. Their attitude is "The law is there for me to enforce, not to obey".
As far as I know, there is not ONE cop...anywhere...that actually comes to a complete stop at stop signs, or before turning right-on-red. But they're HAPPY to cite you for that, every single time they see you do it, and twice on Sundays.
I cannot count the number of times I've seen a cop drive up the shoulder to get past a long line of traffic.
And I personally (not my cousin's friend once told me a guy he knew...) saw a cop roll through FIVE red lights. Was late at night...I was stopped at the first light. He slowed down at the first light, turned his blinky lights on...rolled through the red light...turned his blinky lights off. Sped up to the next light, slowed down, turned his blinky lights on...rolled through the red light...turned his blinky lights off. He did that 3 more times, through all FIVE lights.
He just didn't feel like waiting at the lights. Guess what? Neither did I!!! But, I didn't have a choice!
It is the blatant disrespect of the law.
01-05-11, 07:34 AM
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a little off topic, but everyone should watch this series on youtube - the largest street gang in america. hint: its the police.
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...n+america&aq=f
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...n+america&aq=f
01-05-11, 08:00 AM
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And I personally (not my cousin's friend once told me a guy he knew...) saw a cop roll through FIVE red lights. Was late at night...I was stopped at the first light. He slowed down at the first light, turned his blinky lights on...rolled through the red light...turned his blinky lights off. Sped up to the next light, slowed down, turned his blinky lights on...rolled through the red light...turned his blinky lights off. He did that 3 more times, through all FIVE lights.
He just didn't feel like waiting at the lights. Guess what? Neither did I!!! But, I didn't have a choice!
He just didn't feel like waiting at the lights. Guess what? Neither did I!!! But, I didn't have a choice!
Just recently when snow hit our area bad, i had sawan old couple in a toyota camry stuck so i parked my car in parking lot and helped get them unstuck. It took about 20 minutes to even move the car and this whole time a cop was just looking at us, as if some sort of magic trick offering no help or assistance. I was fine with that i guess, maybe he wasn't allowed to help. It wasn't until i was walking back to my car after the old couple had gotten unstuck did the cop follow me in his police cruiser. As he saw me unlock my car, he pulled up next to me and asks for my license and i ask him why? He then responds with a "Because i said so" I ended up waiting for 2o more minutes After 20 minutes he hands it back and i ay is their a problem and he says "well you are making it seem like it will be." He then threatens to give me a ticket for my tinted windows and H.I.D. lights. This is when i asked for his badge number and or name to report a complaint with my father who is friends with the main guy in the department. Then the guy said "fine" and left. Needless to say i have a bad taste for law inforcement in my mouth. Sorry for the rant
Cop runs a license check on you
Lets you know your tint is illegal but doesn't give you 4 tickets (one for each window)?
Lets you know your HIDs are illegal and doesn't give you a ticket
Further lets you know that your attitude and mouth could escalate the situation.
You threaten with "Daddy" and still walks away and doesn't give you a ticket.
Of course there are corrupt cops and yes they reflect poorly on behalf of all officers overall. But would I want to do their job and have to deal with whiny and 'entitled' people each and every day. Not in the least.
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01-05-11, 08:12 AM
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I am diabetic and although I never been near a diabetic coma condition which is what happens when you are too low it is a known fact that you loose total control of your body and mind! By the way this condition is very unpredictable for us diabetics and in most cases their is little you can do at the time this takes place. Fact is most diabetics that get that far have a 75% chance not to make it back from the coma!!
I think the cop should at least given him the benefit of doubt and asked if he was ok or had a health issue.....no one just goes over a wrong lane just because!!! I am sure the driver was not able to cooperate under the condition.
This from a diabetic.
I think the cop should at least given him the benefit of doubt and asked if he was ok or had a health issue.....no one just goes over a wrong lane just because!!! I am sure the driver was not able to cooperate under the condition.
This from a diabetic.
01-05-11, 09:03 AM
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As always there are 2 sides to the story.
1. As a diabetic it's his responsibility to keep his bood sugar high enough before he drives. It doesn't give him the right to veer into oncoming lane to endanger other people.
2. Being diabetic and driving dangerously is two seperate thing.
3. He should have follow orders do what the cop asked him and rolled down the windows and get out.
4. He should't have resisted when his *** finally gets drag out of the car.
5. Being diabetic doesn't give him the right to do 1-4
PS If you watched the video the guy sounds like he is a drug up crazed loonie.
1. As a diabetic it's his responsibility to keep his bood sugar high enough before he drives. It doesn't give him the right to veer into oncoming lane to endanger other people.
2. Being diabetic and driving dangerously is two seperate thing.
3. He should have follow orders do what the cop asked him and rolled down the windows and get out.
4. He should't have resisted when his *** finally gets drag out of the car.
5. Being diabetic doesn't give him the right to do 1-4
PS If you watched the video the guy sounds like he is a drug up crazed loonie.
When you are diabetic, your sugar can drop unknowingly at times. It can just come of out of the blue.
When you are in diabetic shock, you are unaware of your surroundings. You are a walking/driving zombie pretty much.
I wonder, if this gentleman had a diabetic medical bracelet on his arm.
Did you read after even learning that he was sick, they still charged him with resisting arrest? Better yet, they beat the damn man so much that the state trooper had to jump into to protect him. What ****ing police arrest tactic is that?
The cop was an idiot and if it weren't for the state trooper, this would probably have been swept under the table.
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01-05-11, 10:27 AM
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i think the main thing here is whether cops used excessive and unnecessary force / violence against an obviously sick person (i will leave that one open). i don't think anyone is saying that the person didn't do anything wrong. he did commit some type of dangerous driving, willingly or not, no excuse on that.
similarly, imagine someone driving and suddenly get a heart attack and he veered into different lanes, almost pass out, and get pulled over. yes, he did something wrong, but if the cop proceed to beat him up and claim "resisting arrest" when the man is pretty much in cardiac arrest, that's right thing to do too?
similarly, imagine someone driving and suddenly get a heart attack and he veered into different lanes, almost pass out, and get pulled over. yes, he did something wrong, but if the cop proceed to beat him up and claim "resisting arrest" when the man is pretty much in cardiac arrest, that's right thing to do too?
01-05-11, 02:03 PM
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similarly, imagine someone driving and suddenly get a heart attack and he veered into different lanes, almost pass out, and get pulled over. yes, he did something wrong, but if the cop proceed to beat him up and claim "resisting arrest" when the man is pretty much in cardiac arrest, that's right thing to do too?
A normal person will simply tell the cop that he is in trouble and the cops will help him/rush him to hospital with the sirens blazing.
IMO anybody that tries to fight the cop (when they are simply doing their jobs) tooth and nails deserves a beat down.
01-05-11, 03:35 PM
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If the man in cardiac arrest gets out fighting screaming like a drugged up loonie then yes, a beat down would be necessary in order to put him in cuffs. I mean what are the cops suppose to do, let him go and keep driving dangerously, wait for him to pull out a weapon then do something about it?
A normal person will simply tell the cop that he is in trouble and the cops will help him/rush him to hospital with the sirens blazing.
IMO anybody that tries to fight the cop (when they are simply doing their jobs) tooth and nails deserves a beat down.
A normal person will simply tell the cop that he is in trouble and the cops will help him/rush him to hospital with the sirens blazing.
IMO anybody that tries to fight the cop (when they are simply doing their jobs) tooth and nails deserves a beat down.
01-05-11, 05:49 PM
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Ofcourse not. That's why I know the guy in the OP story is faking it and trying to use diabetic excuse to get out of prison, which he is probably going to end up.
01-05-11, 07:58 PM
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He could have been responding to a non-emergency call and sounds like the cop was doing his job in the safest way possible.
What exactly is your complaint going to be?
Cop runs a license check on you
Lets you know your tint is illegal but doesn't give you 4 tickets (one for each window)?
Lets you know your HIDs are illegal and doesn't give you a ticket
Further lets you know that your attitude and mouth could escalate the situation.
You threaten with "Daddy" and still walks away and doesn't give you a ticket.
Of course there are corrupt cops and yes they reflect poorly on behalf of all officers overall. But would I want to do their job and have to deal with whiny and 'entitled' people each and every day. Not in the least.
What exactly is your complaint going to be?
Cop runs a license check on you
Lets you know your tint is illegal but doesn't give you 4 tickets (one for each window)?
Lets you know your HIDs are illegal and doesn't give you a ticket
Further lets you know that your attitude and mouth could escalate the situation.
You threaten with "Daddy" and still walks away and doesn't give you a ticket.
Of course there are corrupt cops and yes they reflect poorly on behalf of all officers overall. But would I want to do their job and have to deal with whiny and 'entitled' people each and every day. Not in the least.
01-05-11, 08:04 PM
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We get oohpapi44 you have a bias towards police officers, or may even be one, but at the same time you do have to also understand that some cops are *******s who do things because they can get away with it. It is human nature that if given power, it will be abused. Cops know they are going to deal with a lot of ****, whether it be people complaining about something minor, or being shot at...ITS PART OF THE JOB, and is to be expected. It shouldn't be a reason to be jerkoffs toward people who haven't done anything wrong.
01-06-11, 10:44 AM
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You can't be this stupid...
The article clearly said, they found his diabetic kit in the car and the paramedics were called and he was found to have low sugar and hospitalized for it.
The charges were dropped against him because they had no basis in the first place...
01-06-11, 07:16 PM
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Faking?
You can't be this stupid...
The article clearly said, they found his diabetic kit in the car and the paramedics were called and he was found to have low sugar and hospitalized for it.
The charges were dropped against him because they had no basis in the first place...
You can't be this stupid...
The article clearly said, they found his diabetic kit in the car and the paramedics were called and he was found to have low sugar and hospitalized for it.
The charges were dropped against him because they had no basis in the first place...
Yeah....the first thing cops do is check the guys car for a diabetic kit when he refused to follow orders and come out fighting and screaming like a druged up crazed loonie.
Simple logic which you seems to not able to follow is AFTER the cops had him in cuffs and AFTER he poses no danger (meaning the loonie is in cuffs in the back of the squad car) to them they found whatever kit in the car when they searched it.
THEN cops called the paramedics to come help the loonie out, after they realized the loonie could be diabetic. Looks like the cops are doing their jobs don't you think.
PS. Yes when I am in a diabetic shock and coma with a cardiac arrest I am able to come out screaming and fighting off multiple cops. Because I defy logic and gravity. But I never got charged with anything because I roll with a kit in my car.
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