Hyundai Gandeur/Azera (fifth generation)
11-16-11, 10:53 PM
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The dated and homely Honday Odyssey/Subaru Impreza taillights are the weakest link with this very slick sedan. Otherwise, I'm extremely impressed! This is the type of thing Honda, Nissan, and Toyota should be doing.
I wish Hyundai the best with their future. They certainly deserve it after the type of research they've been doing.
I wish Hyundai the best with their future. They certainly deserve it after the type of research they've been doing.
11-17-11, 06:10 AM
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It looks very nice.
11-17-11, 06:57 AM
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Its amazing how people hate the Lexus ES and bash it to no end yet every other car company seems to go after and make their own fake ES. Which this now is, a fake ES. Which will please people that like fakes and fluff.
Its another Hyundai that breaks no new ground. It breaks new ground for THEM but its another ho-hum effort.
Its another Hyundai that breaks no new ground. It breaks new ground for THEM but its another ho-hum effort.
11-17-11, 07:04 AM
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Its amazing how people hate the Lexus ES and bash it to no end yet every other car company seems to go after and make their own fake ES. Which this now is, a fake ES. Which will please people that like fakes and fluff.
Its another Hyundai that breaks no new ground. It breaks new ground for THEM but its another ho-hum effort.
Its another Hyundai that breaks no new ground. It breaks new ground for THEM but its another ho-hum effort.
11-17-11, 07:41 AM
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Damn this Grandeur HG/Azera looks fantastic.
And with that:
Cheers to cars in this segment that actually excite (rather than those that bore you to death like the Toyota Avalon
)
And with that:
Cheers to cars in this segment that actually excite (rather than those that bore you to death like the Toyota Avalon
)
11-17-11, 09:15 AM
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Its amazing how people hate the Lexus ES and bash it to no end yet every other car company seems to go after and make their own fake ES. Which this now is, a fake ES. Which will please people that like fakes and fluff.
Its another Hyundai that breaks no new ground. It breaks new ground for THEM but its another ho-hum effort.
Its another Hyundai that breaks no new ground. It breaks new ground for THEM but its another ho-hum effort.
11-17-11, 09:57 AM
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Sad to see once again that something Hyundai does is upsetting to some.
What Hyundai does (or doesn't do) has no bearing on Lexus, so what's up with the negativity?
I always held the belief that car enthusiasts like....well...all cars. More cars and more choices make the world a better place for all lovers of the automobile.
What Hyundai does (or doesn't do) has no bearing on Lexus, so what's up with the negativity?
I always held the belief that car enthusiasts like....well...all cars. More cars and more choices make the world a better place for all lovers of the automobile.
11-17-11, 10:02 AM
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People need to give the ES tons of credit for being a leader and success since 1992.Sad to see once again that something Hyundai does is upsetting to some.
What Hyundai does (or doesn't do) has no bearing on Lexus, so what's up with the negativity?
I always held the belief that car enthusiasts like....well...all cars. More cars and more choices make the world a better place for all lovers of the automobile.
What Hyundai does (or doesn't do) has no bearing on Lexus, so what's up with the negativity?
I always held the belief that car enthusiasts like....well...all cars. More cars and more choices make the world a better place for all lovers of the automobile.
What is up with these statements in Hyundai threads all the time? Did anyone say it was a bad car? Nope. Is it wanna be ES? Yup and as stated, that makes people that like fake things happy and I'm happy for them.
People knock the ES all the time and now we welcome a copy of it? Exactly whats wrong with the world today.
11-17-11, 10:11 AM
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I'm not saying that people aren't allowed to have differing of opinions, it's just that opinions presented as if they should be universal facts aren't rational.
You are always quite quick and vocal to poo-poo on Hyundai. While I don't believe everyone needs to "fap off" to every new Hyundai model, I also think there should be a bit of respect for others who don't feel the same as you do.
I know you are a big time Lexus fan. Guess what. I am too.
I just felt that clublexus was above the nastiness that is so prevelant on sites elsewhere.
You are always quite quick and vocal to poo-poo on Hyundai. While I don't believe everyone needs to "fap off" to every new Hyundai model, I also think there should be a bit of respect for others who don't feel the same as you do.
I know you are a big time Lexus fan. Guess what. I am too.
I just felt that clublexus was above the nastiness that is so prevelant on sites elsewhere.
11-17-11, 10:36 AM
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I'm not saying that people aren't allowed to have differing of opinions, it's just that opinions presented as if they should be universal facts aren't rational.
You are always quite quick and vocal to poo-poo on Hyundai. While I don't believe everyone needs to "fap off" to every new Hyundai model, I also think there should be a bit of respect for others who don't feel the same as you do.
I know you are a big time Lexus fan. Guess what. I am too.
I just felt that clublexus was above the nastiness that is so prevelant on sites elsewhere.
You are always quite quick and vocal to poo-poo on Hyundai. While I don't believe everyone needs to "fap off" to every new Hyundai model, I also think there should be a bit of respect for others who don't feel the same as you do.
I know you are a big time Lexus fan. Guess what. I am too.
I just felt that clublexus was above the nastiness that is so prevelant on sites elsewhere.
Your assessment is short-sighted and predictable at best since numerous times I have supported Hyundai and applauded them. I don't see you bringing those posts up. However in typical lazy fashion, when one makes a comment they disagree with, then they want to post and make blanket statements. Again I stated I know its a good car and is a step up for Hyundai, my apologies if I still see it as a knock-off ES 350.
FYI, I'm one of the few here (anywhere) that likes the previous Azera.
I love the Genesis coupe, the updated powertrains are great. I have publicly warned others to knock off the Hyundai thread crapping when I was a moderator. I strongly suggest in the future do some research before making blanket statements about myself or any other poster.
Thank you
11-17-11, 10:47 AM
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Your prior comments about Hyundai are irrelevant as it's your confrontational attitude that is really the subject matter.
Like I said, I enjoy coming to clublexus because I see it as a well-informed source for all my car news. The negativity shown in Hyundai posts I find dissapointing. The comment of "fake ES" is nothing but argumentitive.
I don't want to argue. I respect your position/influence here at clublexus and what you do for the community of Lexus fans. I'd just prefer clublexus (especially carchat) to keep being the positive place it has been for fans of all cars.
Like I said, I enjoy coming to clublexus because I see it as a well-informed source for all my car news. The negativity shown in Hyundai posts I find dissapointing. The comment of "fake ES" is nothing but argumentitive.
I don't want to argue. I respect your position/influence here at clublexus and what you do for the community of Lexus fans. I'd just prefer clublexus (especially carchat) to keep being the positive place it has been for fans of all cars.