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Old 02-27-12 | 03:01 PM
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note to lexus - these are what nice wheels look like, with good fitment, yes, even on fwd.

great car!
Old 02-27-12 | 03:12 PM
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From the side I see hints of Optima styling. Not a bad thing..
Old 02-27-12 | 03:22 PM
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hmm still prefer genesis
Old 02-27-12 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
why? you can compare any car you want when you are buying with your money :-).

you can also compare ES to A6 for instance and Sonata to both.
It was sarcasm. You got my point. You can compare whatever you want, as long as you're happy to pay more.
Old 02-27-12 | 05:01 PM
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The rear looks like a Jagura.

I saw an Equus at the mall yesterday, and also noticed the wheel firment and the stance of the car.

Wish Lexus wheels are this aggressive!
Old 02-27-12 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cino
It was sarcasm. You got my point. You can compare whatever you want, as long as you're happy to pay more.
yep... I just got a car and i set my price goal and looked at everything around that price. i am sure many others do the same. And I decided for Lexus instead of fancy Toyota, which is probably question that many people will ask themselves when deciding between 500 and Azera and Avalon and TL and ES and........
Old 02-27-12 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Not bad at all. I just priced one w/Technology Package and it came out to just under $38.9K including freight.

I think the article was correct in saying the new Azera will appeal to shoppers/buyers of LaCrosse, Taurus, MKZ etc. with definite overlap into TL, ES350 etc. territory.
Indeed, I believe that 07 ES was copied by Hyundai, you can really see it in the slope lines of the exterior, and especially the 'waterfall' dashboard. This is a sharp looking car, although I don't like the steering wheel and the over abundance of plastic inside, however, I do think the Azera will give the ES a run for their money...
Old 02-27-12 | 07:02 PM
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People need to focus and comment on the Azera being an improvement over the last model and not ****ing worry about Lexus. Its a clear version of the ES and won't touch the ES.

Here is what TTAC thinks

Hyundai’s press materials list the 2012 Azera’s competitors as “…traditional large sedan sales leaders such as Maxima, Lacrosse, Avalon and Taurus.” But those cars were on the minds of exactly no one at the Las Vegas launch of the 2012 Azera. Only the Lexus ES350, the market’s leading 4-wheeled sensory deprivation tank, was on the lips of the assembled journos when talking about the Azera’s competition. Hyundai didn’t give us much time with the car, but one thing was clear.

The Azera is still not a match for the Lexus ES350.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...hyundai-azera/
And that is the OLD ES.
Old 02-27-12 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
note to lexus - these are what nice wheels look like, with good fitment, yes, even on fwd.

great car!
I agree, these are sharp looking wheels
Old 02-27-12 | 07:40 PM
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I think they did a great job with the exterior and with the motor. I think they fell short in the interior department. How are they going to compete against the new ES ( or even the old ES) with that lack of luxury and wood. The interior is not bad, but its simply not up to the standards of the car that it may be trying to compete against.

As far as the exterior I think the lines are modern and fresh while still retaining the Hyundai new design language. The motor is pretty impressive. 3.3 liter DI with 293 HP. I like Hyundai more and more as the years go by. They are redeeming themselves in the eyes of many consumers and the reviews are generally nothing but positive. I always tell people that Hyundai is the new Honda
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Can't believe all this talk here about the ES - newsflash, they're not competitors
Old 02-27-12 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
The rear looks like a Jagura.
yeah! i thought of the XF when i first saw it. anyway, i think the side/rear looks good, don't like the front though.
Old 02-27-12 | 08:13 PM
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So I guess Hyundai has a group buy on Lexus Start/Stop buttons and rear exhaust outlets

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I think the rear end on this car is really nice. The center console is not very impressive. Hyundai is really coming out with a lot of cars, possibly too many.

This car might take some Genesis buyers and will certainly get the attention of TL, ES, and G sedan shoppers.

I just don't think it's different enough from the Genesis.
Old 02-27-12 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bruce van
Hyundai is really coming out with a lot of cars, possibly too many.
well this one isn't a new model. In fact only veloster is recent new model i thnk?

This car might take some Genesis buyers and will certainly get the attention of TL, ES, and G sedan shoppers.

I just don't think it's different enough from the Genesis.
that's like saying avalon isn't much diff than lexus gs. Not sure if serious.


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