Hyundai Gandeur/Azera (fifth generation)
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How things change, fast?
Month ago, this was considered ES/Avalon killer by many here (just look at the start of the thread).
![](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/517919-2/2012-Hyundai-Azera-interior-01.jpg)
And month later, IMHO, it looks like elantra interior while competition:
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Toyota-Avalon_2013_800x600_wallpaper_07.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lexus-ES_300h_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0c.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lincoln-MKZ_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0a.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Chevrolet-Impala_2014_800x600_wallpaper_0e.jpg)
It is tough business auto business. Hyundai should have introduced Azera last year when it was out in Korea.
Month ago, this was considered ES/Avalon killer by many here (just look at the start of the thread).
![](http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/517919-2/2012-Hyundai-Azera-interior-01.jpg)
And month later, IMHO, it looks like elantra interior while competition:
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Toyota-Avalon_2013_800x600_wallpaper_07.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lexus-ES_300h_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0c.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lincoln-MKZ_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0a.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Chevrolet-Impala_2014_800x600_wallpaper_0e.jpg)
It is tough business auto business. Hyundai should have introduced Azera last year when it was out in Korea.
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lol at anyone brining up the ES vs Azera after seeing the new ES ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Hyundai Marketing posting in Hyundai threads. Still clever![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
You do realize Hyundai offers the "trade in a Hyundai for a Hyundai guaranteed Trade In value" gimmick. Of course that will spur loyalty. No one else offers that. Its Apples to Oranges.
Who said that?
I didn't realize we all had to only praise them and not post concerns or dissenting opinions. Also what about the tons of posts commending them, why are those ignored?
Here yall go![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
http://www.hyundaiforum.com/forum/
It seems some people are upset that not everyone is on their knees bowing to Hyundai/Kia at every given turn and thread.
Fluff.
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Hyundai Marketing posting in Hyundai threads. Still clever
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You do realize Hyundai offers the "trade in a Hyundai for a Hyundai guaranteed Trade In value" gimmick. Of course that will spur loyalty. No one else offers that. Its Apples to Oranges.
Who said that?
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
Here yall go
![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
http://www.hyundaiforum.com/forum/
It seems some people are upset that not everyone is on their knees bowing to Hyundai/Kia at every given turn and thread.
Fluff.
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#318
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How things change, fast?
Month ago, this was considered ES/Avalon killer by many here (just look at the start of the thread).
![](http://photo.netcarshow.com/Hyundai-Azera_2012_photo_18.jpg)
And month later, IMHO, it looks like elantra interior while competition:
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Toyota-Avalon_2013_800x600_wallpaper_07.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lexus-ES_300h_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0c.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lincoln-MKZ_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0a.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Chevrolet-Impala_2014_800x600_wallpaper_0e.jpg)
It is tough business auto business. Hyundai should have introduced Azera last year when it was out in Korea.
Month ago, this was considered ES/Avalon killer by many here (just look at the start of the thread).
![](http://photo.netcarshow.com/Hyundai-Azera_2012_photo_18.jpg)
And month later, IMHO, it looks like elantra interior while competition:
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Toyota-Avalon_2013_800x600_wallpaper_07.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lexus-ES_300h_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0c.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lincoln-MKZ_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0a.jpg)
![](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Chevrolet-Impala_2014_800x600_wallpaper_0e.jpg)
It is tough business auto business. Hyundai should have introduced Azera last year when it was out in Korea.
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#319
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Much better picture of an Azera interior.
These professional photos can be deceiving since the lighting, angles etc. are just right to enhance things. The real test is how the car looks in real life and out on the street.
In all of the professional pics of the new ES350 it looks striking in all of them. Some of the amatuer shots make it look less so. Need to see things in person.
These professional photos can be deceiving since the lighting, angles etc. are just right to enhance things. The real test is how the car looks in real life and out on the street.
In all of the professional pics of the new ES350 it looks striking in all of them. Some of the amatuer shots make it look less so. Need to see things in person.
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the ES on the other hand, looks awesome, but again, i don't think the avalon competes with it at all.
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Azera's interior is Hyundai design in the same vein as previous generation Lexus interiors. Similar style of swaths of formed soft touch plastic on the dash and a waterfall center stack. You will notice that the silver detailing above the Azera's navi screen is straight off of a 2006 GS.
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Me neither. Is it just me or does it seem as if there is extra effort here to discredit Hyundai? I mean, the Azera isn't perfect but I see no reason to go out of the way to poo-poo it.
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From what some have said, my 2011 Tucson should be getting horrid mileage, and be falling apart from being rushed to market. Neither has happened so far, actually far from it. Everyone I know with a newer Hyundai have all been trouble free.
This Azera looks great inside and out, a very original design and will pose a good competition in the market. Does it outclass the new Avalon? no, but it doesn't mean it won't give it a run for the money.
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#329
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I think they did a great job with the exterior and with the motor. I think they fell short in the interior department. How are they going to compete against the new ES ( or even the old ES) with that lack of luxury and wood. The interior is not bad, but its simply not up to the standards of the car that it may be trying to compete against.
As far as the exterior I think the lines are modern and fresh while still retaining the Hyundai new design language. The motor is pretty impressive. 3.3 liter DI with 293 HP. I like Hyundai more and more as the years go by. They are redeeming themselves in the eyes of many consumers and the reviews are generally nothing but positive. I always tell people that Hyundai is the new Honda
As far as the exterior I think the lines are modern and fresh while still retaining the Hyundai new design language. The motor is pretty impressive. 3.3 liter DI with 293 HP. I like Hyundai more and more as the years go by. They are redeeming themselves in the eyes of many consumers and the reviews are generally nothing but positive. I always tell people that Hyundai is the new Honda
That said, i think this will be a great car for what it is.
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#330
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I feel the same way. I understand some here have a hatred for certain makes and will have nothing positive to say about them. But the interior comparison is really pulling at strings. How many vehicles have a waterfall center stack design? I think a majority. Those interiors look completely different to me with no similarities what so ever.
![Hyundai Gandeur/Azera (fifth generation)-aaevh.jpg](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/car-chat/502371d1683166849t-hyundai-gandeur-azera-fifth-generation-aaevh.jpg)
![Hyundai Gandeur/Azera (fifth generation)-wi3xw.jpg](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/car-chat/502372d1683166849t-hyundai-gandeur-azera-fifth-generation-wi3xw.jpg)
![Hyundai Gandeur/Azera (fifth generation)-iolqg.jpg](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/car-chat/502373d1683166849t-hyundai-gandeur-azera-fifth-generation-iolqg.jpg)
Again note that I am not saying the designs are similar, so don't go looking for aesthetic similarities. You can have a similar style of designing an interior, but use it to design many different designs, which is what Toyota/Lexus did for half a decade.
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