Mister Two

I agree. The editors are obviously strongly Euro-biased there. Objectively all the studies of brand perceptions in recent years have shown Lexus clearly ranked above Jaguar and Audi.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

self park is so overrated. i highly doubt most of the owners ever use it. i had it on my ls460l, it was cool, but pretty useless. lane departure, i think it's in higher trim level and options? led headlights? you don't get it unless 600hl. if you talk about led stripes, i don't consider that "tech" anymore.

i am not ditching the ls460 on their tech, they have some very cool stuff, like mark levinson. but overall, it can definitely use a bit more refresh on their tech too (since 2007). they didn't even get their ipod integration to work right until very recently, if at all.

but with all that said, i do think 6 is a bit low. most of these reviews are pro euros anyway, nothing new anymore

TwiBlueG35

I like the fact that they only picked white and black cars for this comparison.

LexFather

I don't think you can really find a fully optioned LS sport. Many don't even have ML. I have to say I enjoyed the diverse lineup they tested and kudos to MT for doing something different.

SaintNexus

If it was me, based off of these numbers, this is how I would rank them overall:

PERFORMANCE
1. Porsche 77
2. Audi 75
3. Jaguar 69
4. BMW 66
5. Lexus 59
6. Hyundai 56
7. Mercedes-Benz 48

LEASE RESIDUAL VALUE/MONTHLY PAYMENT*
1. Lexus 52%/$1557
2. Jaguar 52%/$1649
3. Hyundai 51%/$1172
4. BMW 48%/$1719
5. Audi 45%/$1904
6. Porsche 44%/$1976
7. Mercedes-Benz 40%/$2016

JDPOWER QUALITY: IQS VDS*
1. Porsche 83 110
2. Lexus 88 115
3. Mercedes-Benz 87 142
4. Hyundai 102 148
5. BMW 113 165
6. Audi 111 182
7. Jaguar 130 175

COMFORT
1. Lexus
2. Mercedes
3. Hyundai
4. Audi
5. Jag
6. BMW
7. Porsche

TECH-GEEK GADGETRY
1. Audi (LED headlights, Drive Select, handwriting input)
2. Hyundai (Lane-Departure, radar cruise control)
3. Porsche (highly customizable cockpit displays, PDK, auto-stop)
4. BMW (active anti-roll bars, iDrive customizability)
5. Mercedes (Hybrid drive, auto-stop)
6. Lexus (self-parking feature)
7. Jaguar

SOUND SYSTEM QUALITY
1. Lexus Mark Levinson
2. Jaguar Bowers & Wilkins
3. Hyundai Lexicon
4. BMW base (unbranded)
5. Porsche Bose Surround
6. Audi base (Bose)
7. Mercedes-Benz base (harman/kardon)

LABEL SNOBBERY
1. Porsche
2. Mercedes-Benz
3. BMW
4. Jag
5. Audi
6. Lexus
7. Hyundai

Overall Ranking
1. Lexus: 34/49
2. Porsche: 32/49
3. Audi: 27/49
4. Jaguar: 26/49
4. BMW: 26/49
4. Hyundai: 26/49
5. Mercedes: 23/49

But thats just how I would do it, based off of the rankings from the above. I don't know, I just have this mindset that Lexus is the best Luxury carmake for the common consumer, and I want to see it high up there in the ranks.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

you serious? ls460 sport doesn't have ml? wow, quite surprising

CDNROCKIES

Good thread Mike!

I might have to put you on retainer as my personal car shopper with all the threads you've been starting recently. You seem to be all over my shopping list.

Fizzboy7

The more I see the new A8 on the road, the more I fall in love with it and respect Audi. Good article.

OC 335d

That's the problem with a lot of brands. I know when car shopping, it was hard to configure certain Hondas/Toyotas. I think it helps keep costs down to streamline production. With a lot of European mfgs, cost is higher but you can custom order your car without ordering unnecessary bundled packages.

LexFather

The option is hit or miss with the sport. It also has only one interior color choice as we know. That said I still love it and its a great first effort.

hhaha, thanks!

I have yet to see one on the road. Audi as we all agree has stepped the game up.

Welcome, glad to see you make it here!

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

lexus figures someone who wants sport wants to hear the engine, not the stereo.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

that extra ~$400 buys a lot of grey poupon.

Joeb427

iTrader: (1)

March issue of Motor Trend tests 7 luxury vehicles against each other.
Also in the article is a great quote about the Equus.

Here's the order the 7 finished.

BMW 740i
Porsche Panamera
Audi A8
Lexus LS460
Jaguar xjl
MB s400 Hybrid(hybrid?)
Hyundai Equus

Road test editor Carlos Lago on the Equus.
"Hyundai is paint by numbers,while the rest attempted making art"

Top 3 in Performance
Porsche
Audi
Jaguar

Lease residual
Lexus
Jaguar
Hyundai(how would they know now?)

JD Power Quality IQS VDS
Porsche
Lexus
Mercedes

Comfort
Lexus
Mercedes
Hyundai

Tech Geek Gadgets
Audi
Hyundai
Porsche

Sound System
Lexus ML
Jaguar Bowers and Wilkens
Hyundai Lexicon

Label Snobbery
Porsche
Mercedes
BMW

dj.ctwatt

Man. . . I really want to read this article! Sounds interesting!

Ty419

Did the Audi have the Bang & Olufsen option or was it tested with the base Bose system?