2012 Honda Civic Released (Updated)...Hyundai lol'd
10-12-10, 04:30 PM
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The "sheep" who buy these newer Hondas are (apparantly) not concerned with looks. Most of them have (probably) had good experiences with previous Hondas and are simply sold on Honda quality. I still think, myself, that, despite questionable styling/design on some of their products (and the Acura ZDX being an almost complete waste of company resources), that Honda/Acura still screws a car together at the factory like no other mass-produced auto manufacturer. Other manufacturers, however, are rapidly catching up....and Lexus, of course, has (usually) been way up there in the quality department as well.
10-12-10, 08:20 PM
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It's a good possibility that this is not the American version. Honda usually does, for some unnecessary reason, makes 2 or more styled versions for different markets. And of course the Asian version usually emerges first for Honda's and Toyota's.
Even the current non-US version looks very odd compared to our model. The headlights and taillights are lousy.
Even the current non-US version looks very odd compared to our model. The headlights and taillights are lousy.
10-12-10, 08:29 PM
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^^^ Which is then badged an Acura and beaked in Canada.
Oddly our American suspension on the Civic is a multi-leaf setup and the Euro setup is not independent. We actually got the better suspension here.
The proportions of the mule say Civic. They usually go evolution, evolution, revolution and the last model was the revolution so this will be the evolution.
Oddly our American suspension on the Civic is a multi-leaf setup and the Euro setup is not independent. We actually got the better suspension here.
The proportions of the mule say Civic. They usually go evolution, evolution, revolution and the last model was the revolution so this will be the evolution.
10-12-10, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Oddly our American suspension on the Civic is a multi-leaf setup and the Euro setup is not independent. We actually got the better suspension here.
10-13-10, 11:07 AM
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Incredibly boring, completely uninspired, and will not stand out in any way. It looks like it could be a more downmarket cheap Ford or Toyota. It does not even look like a new civic but something in a class below it. What were they thinking making it so dull. I don't find it ugly and I would rather it have controversial styling some call ugly like with the new TL over something this dull, forgettable and uninspired. Then again buyers in that segment generally want something boring and restrained and the real issue will be the specs, how it drives, quality, etc. Will still have to hold final judgment until seen in person.
I did not care for the current civic sedan when it first came out but it has grown on me and looks much better then this new civic which reminds me of a Toyota Echo. I really like the current civic coupe and hope they don't screw the new coupe up. If the coupe looks and performs good the dull sedan can somewhat be forgiven.
On some forums they are holding out hope this is not the version the US will get but I think this is what we are getting.
I did not care for the current civic sedan when it first came out but it has grown on me and looks much better then this new civic which reminds me of a Toyota Echo. I really like the current civic coupe and hope they don't screw the new coupe up. If the coupe looks and performs good the dull sedan can somewhat be forgiven.
On some forums they are holding out hope this is not the version the US will get but I think this is what we are getting.
10-14-10, 12:12 AM
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Taken from http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/garage/.
Actually, w/ a better angled shot, the new Civic does look better from the side - an improved, sleeker looking greenhouse and roofline (that jellybean shape of the current Civic is just awful).
But it kinda has "Malibu-itis", looks pretty good from the side, not so much from the front and rear.
Actually, the CSX came first; but all in all, essentially a Civic (whether JDM or USDM).
Actually, w/ a better angled shot, the new Civic does look better from the side - an improved, sleeker looking greenhouse and roofline (that jellybean shape of the current Civic is just awful).
But it kinda has "Malibu-itis", looks pretty good from the side, not so much from the front and rear.
Actually, the CSX came first; but all in all, essentially a Civic (whether JDM or USDM).
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10-14-10, 07:26 AM
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This does look a lot better but still lacking of what a 2012 Civic should look like.
There are differences from the original shots, which appears to have still had camo on it.
10-14-10, 07:48 AM
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New usual ugly Honda comes out, it will sell. That said I think people are going to start realizing Honda has completely rested on ugly laurels and start giving the competition serious thought like the new Elantra, Cruze, Focus, etc.
10-14-10, 11:34 AM
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Some of the other new competition you mentioned will be strong and I think will take away a lot of the enthusiast buyers away from the Civic.
11-16-10, 01:03 PM
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Honda wants to challenge Prius with 2012 Civic Hybrid.
http://www.insideline.com/honda/civi...he-lineup.html
http://www.insideline.com/honda/civi...he-lineup.html
2012 Honda Civic: Hybrid Will Lead the Lineup
Published Nov 16, 2010
Just the Facts:
A new Honda Civic is on its way for 2012.
A four-door sedan and Si Coupe are again planned for the U.S.
New Civic hybrid is set to challenge the Toyota Prius head-on.
TOKYO Behind the scenes, Honda is now putting the finishing touches to its eagerly awaited next-generation 2012 Civic Hybrid, a car that's being set up to challenge the Toyota Prius. The automaker is remaking the entire Civic lineup but prioritizing the hybrid model over the conventionally powered Civic, to the extent that the future of the "normal" Civic looks doubtful in Japan while the 2012 Civic Hybrid will definitely go on sale here next year.
Honda is going for evolution rather than revolution with the next Civic, restyling the current model with a rounder overall profile but, sources say, not making any significant changes to design, size or market positioning. As the saying goes in Japan, "Keep concept."
For the U.S., there will once again be sedan and Si coupe body styles. Americans are expected to get a first look at the cars at the 2011 Detroit Auto Show in January.
The grapevine in Tokyo suggests Honda's biggest mission is to deliver on a new eco champ that can take big chunks out of sales of the Prius. Thus the redesigned Civic Hybrid will be the lead vehicle in the new offensive.
Honda will once again be going with its unique, home-grown IMA hybrid system, as found in the CR-Z, Insight and current Civic Hybrid. But next year, the Civic Hybrid will move up to 1.5 liters (from the current 1.3 liters) and will be the first Honda hybrid to get lithium-ion batteries, significantly improving the car's EV driving range.
One of the weaknesses of the current Civic Hybrid with the NI-MH battery pack is the fact that it can hardly run any significant distance in silent, electric-only mode, thus curbing emissions and noise, as can the Prius.
Shots of camouflaged test mules in the U.S. show the 2012 Civic as a conservatively reshaped compact, with long wheelbase, sloping nose and BMW-style C-pillar treatment. Body size, it's believed, barely changes.
In Japan, where the Civic is set to launch next spring, the rumor goes that because the company is desperate for a green-car victory over the Prius Honda will give maximum weight and PR exposure to the Civic Hybrid, while conventionally powered Civics will take all but a backseat.
Inside Line says: Honda is set to fire the next round in Japan's green-car wars with the 2012 Civic. But against the Prius, will it be enough? Peter Nunn, Correspondent
Published Nov 16, 2010
Just the Facts:
A new Honda Civic is on its way for 2012.
A four-door sedan and Si Coupe are again planned for the U.S.
New Civic hybrid is set to challenge the Toyota Prius head-on.
TOKYO Behind the scenes, Honda is now putting the finishing touches to its eagerly awaited next-generation 2012 Civic Hybrid, a car that's being set up to challenge the Toyota Prius. The automaker is remaking the entire Civic lineup but prioritizing the hybrid model over the conventionally powered Civic, to the extent that the future of the "normal" Civic looks doubtful in Japan while the 2012 Civic Hybrid will definitely go on sale here next year.
Honda is going for evolution rather than revolution with the next Civic, restyling the current model with a rounder overall profile but, sources say, not making any significant changes to design, size or market positioning. As the saying goes in Japan, "Keep concept."
For the U.S., there will once again be sedan and Si coupe body styles. Americans are expected to get a first look at the cars at the 2011 Detroit Auto Show in January.
The grapevine in Tokyo suggests Honda's biggest mission is to deliver on a new eco champ that can take big chunks out of sales of the Prius. Thus the redesigned Civic Hybrid will be the lead vehicle in the new offensive.
Honda will once again be going with its unique, home-grown IMA hybrid system, as found in the CR-Z, Insight and current Civic Hybrid. But next year, the Civic Hybrid will move up to 1.5 liters (from the current 1.3 liters) and will be the first Honda hybrid to get lithium-ion batteries, significantly improving the car's EV driving range.
One of the weaknesses of the current Civic Hybrid with the NI-MH battery pack is the fact that it can hardly run any significant distance in silent, electric-only mode, thus curbing emissions and noise, as can the Prius.
Shots of camouflaged test mules in the U.S. show the 2012 Civic as a conservatively reshaped compact, with long wheelbase, sloping nose and BMW-style C-pillar treatment. Body size, it's believed, barely changes.
In Japan, where the Civic is set to launch next spring, the rumor goes that because the company is desperate for a green-car victory over the Prius Honda will give maximum weight and PR exposure to the Civic Hybrid, while conventionally powered Civics will take all but a backseat.
Inside Line says: Honda is set to fire the next round in Japan's green-car wars with the 2012 Civic. But against the Prius, will it be enough? Peter Nunn, Correspondent
11-16-10, 01:43 PM
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It's going to look silly having the Civic Hybrid beat their own dedicated hybrid Insight. And if they really intend on challenging the Prius, that means that the Civic will blow away the Insight as the Prius does now. Unless Honda simultaneously updates the Insight with the same tech going into the Civic.
I still don't see it happening. Remember, the Civic is still conventionally shaped compared to the Prius/Insight. So it also has to overcome that weakness.
Never going to happen.
I still don't see it happening. Remember, the Civic is still conventionally shaped compared to the Prius/Insight. So it also has to overcome that weakness.
Never going to happen.