Cheap oil used by Lexus dealership in Indianapolis
02-24-11, 07:59 AM
#62
Pole Position
As for fluids, Toyota recommends you use what they spec, or equivalent. Mechanics Pride with the proper rating is that equivalent if it meets the spec the car requires.
I understand what you are saying, but the only real fluid you should be worried about is genuine transmission fluid and coolant. Everything else is fine on Toyota vehicles. Brake, power steering, differentials... Generics are fine that meet the spec.
But when it comes to ATF, I only use T-IV or WS if that's what the car calls for. Same with coolant. Toyota red or Toyota pink.
02-24-11, 09:01 AM
#63
If I can find Mechanics Pride in the area, I will buy it and use it in my car. I will also do a used oil analysis to confirm that the engine isn't going to self-destruct anytime soon. However, I only do my oil change once a year (yes, UOA confirmed) so even if I do switch over to Mechanics Pride, you will not get any results from me until the next year.
02-24-11, 10:45 AM
#64
Pole Position
Around here the pricing is as follows per quart:
Wholesale Generics: $1.89
Retail Brand Name Conventional: $4.49
Retail Brand Name Synthetic: $8.49
So it's more than a dollar typically. You might have a different situation. If a dollar will step you up to something that makes you feel better, then by all means go for it.
But that dollar eighty-nine dino juice sure has served the 4Runner well. And millions of other cars on the road. The long-term proof is right there.
Wholesale Generics: $1.89
Retail Brand Name Conventional: $4.49
Retail Brand Name Synthetic: $8.49
So it's more than a dollar typically. You might have a different situation. If a dollar will step you up to something that makes you feel better, then by all means go for it.
But that dollar eighty-nine dino juice sure has served the 4Runner well. And millions of other cars on the road. The long-term proof is right there.
02-24-11, 11:16 AM
#65
Lexus Fanatic
Just because an engine is clean does not mean that the oil is offering the best wear protection. Not saying a particular oil is bad, but you certainly cannot judge the overall quality of a lubricant based on the surface appearance of an engine.
It's all a matter of value. Some people don't see the value in spending more for a quality synthetic oil, which is fine. If you change your oil at proper intervals, almost any oil will offer at least adequate protection.
It's all a matter of value. Some people don't see the value in spending more for a quality synthetic oil, which is fine. If you change your oil at proper intervals, almost any oil will offer at least adequate protection.
02-24-11, 12:17 PM
#66
Lexus Fanatic
Whatever, always fun talking about oil with words like, "it's fine, value, makes me feel good, perceptions, looks clean, good as other brands, sold at Kmart, guessing, ...........".
10K intervals w/Mobil1 synthetic at my Lexus dealership reduces (for those prone to such) anxiety and concern.
10K intervals w/Mobil1 synthetic at my Lexus dealership reduces (for those prone to such) anxiety and concern.
02-25-11, 12:25 AM
#67
I belive it is dealers responsibilty to inform customer of the parts used for service if they are not genuine. Motor Oil sold in bulk are the biggest challenge for API quality audit. Beware of cheap oils used by dealers and quick lubes. One buys Lexus knowing it is a quality vehicle. You will be compromising the performance of Lexus using lower quality parts (Oil).
I haven't had the best experience with Tom Wood Lexus either but I'll say that while I have never had my Lexus serviced at Tom Wood Lexus, I have bought plenty of parts from them and the parts/service department has always treated me well. My parents has had their Lexus serviced at Tom Wood Lexus since when they were next to Ford and haven't had an issue.
02-25-11, 01:23 AM
#68
Lexus Test Driver
From what I've found through Google,
Oil Distributing Company is located in Ohio.
from their website, www.oildistributing.com
A basic explanation of what they do, also from their website:
These are Mechanic's Pride's licenses according to API.
http://eolcs.api.org/brandSearchResu...ride&go=Search
Oil Distributing Company is located in Ohio.
from their website, www.oildistributing.com
Passenger Car Oils (Installer / Retail)
The Oil Distributing Company specializes in the dealership, lube center, and auto/tire repair centers. We offer branded products that feature customized signage, equipment loans, and co-op advertising monies. Our Shell/Pennzoil/Quaker State program drives new customers, increases your ticket average, builds repeat business, and adds value to your service center.
* Leaders in Synthetic Marketing *
In addition, our Shell, Citgo, Service Pro and Mechanic's Pride program allows our customers a more economical lubricant without sacrificing product quality.
Along with engine oils, Oil Distributing also markets transmission fluid, greases, gear oils, filters, mineral spirits, brake clean, floor cleaners ...
The Oil Distributing Company specializes in the dealership, lube center, and auto/tire repair centers. We offer branded products that feature customized signage, equipment loans, and co-op advertising monies. Our Shell/Pennzoil/Quaker State program drives new customers, increases your ticket average, builds repeat business, and adds value to your service center.
* Leaders in Synthetic Marketing *
In addition, our Shell, Citgo, Service Pro and Mechanic's Pride program allows our customers a more economical lubricant without sacrificing product quality.
Along with engine oils, Oil Distributing also markets transmission fluid, greases, gear oils, filters, mineral spirits, brake clean, floor cleaners ...
A basic explanation of what they do, also from their website:
Company Profile
The Oil Distributing Company, founded in 1982, is the Midwest's premier marketer of lubricants, coolants, and chemicals. Oil Distributing is headquartered in Cincinnati, Ohio with a separate distribution center in Columbus. All told, between 4,000,000 to 5,000,000 gallons of product flow through these facilities to our primary marketing area (including SE Indiana, Northern Kentucky, and Ohio).
The Oil Distributing Company services all of your lubricant, coolant, and chemical needs. We specialize in the automotive, commercial, and industrial markets featuring the Pennzoil, Quaker State, Shell, BP, Castrol and Citgo brands. In addition, we market a high quality, economical private label product line. "Mechanic's Pride" branded lubricants serve your automotive needs, and "ODC Industrial" will handle your commercial, industrial, coolant, and chemical requirements.
The Oil Distributing Company, founded in 1982, is the Midwest's premier marketer of lubricants, coolants, and chemicals. Oil Distributing is headquartered in Cincinnati, Ohio with a separate distribution center in Columbus. All told, between 4,000,000 to 5,000,000 gallons of product flow through these facilities to our primary marketing area (including SE Indiana, Northern Kentucky, and Ohio).
The Oil Distributing Company services all of your lubricant, coolant, and chemical needs. We specialize in the automotive, commercial, and industrial markets featuring the Pennzoil, Quaker State, Shell, BP, Castrol and Citgo brands. In addition, we market a high quality, economical private label product line. "Mechanic's Pride" branded lubricants serve your automotive needs, and "ODC Industrial" will handle your commercial, industrial, coolant, and chemical requirements.
http://eolcs.api.org/brandSearchResu...ride&go=Search
Last edited by whoster; 02-25-11 at 01:31 AM.
02-25-11, 05:01 AM
#69
From what I've found through Google,
Oil Distributing Company is located in Ohio.
from their website, www.oildistributing.com
A basic explanation of what they do, also from their website:
These are Mechanic's Pride's licenses according to API.
http://eolcs.api.org/brandSearchResu...ride&go=Search
Oil Distributing Company is located in Ohio.
from their website, www.oildistributing.com
A basic explanation of what they do, also from their website:
These are Mechanic's Pride's licenses according to API.
http://eolcs.api.org/brandSearchResu...ride&go=Search
Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C,
Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C,
Viscosity Index
Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity
Pour Point °C (°F)
Flash Point °C (°F)
Fire Point
Noack Volatility
High Temperature/High Shear Viscosity
Total Base Number
Last edited by Joeb427; 02-25-11 at 05:05 AM.
02-25-11, 08:57 AM
#70
That's wonderful but I'll continue to buy name brand oil until I see any generic brand oil's numbers of these typical physical properties.
Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C,
Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C,
Viscosity Index
Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity
Pour Point °C (°F)
Flash Point °C (°F)
Fire Point
Noack Volatility
High Temperature/High Shear Viscosity
Total Base Number
Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C,
Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C,
Viscosity Index
Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity
Pour Point °C (°F)
Flash Point °C (°F)
Fire Point
Noack Volatility
High Temperature/High Shear Viscosity
Total Base Number
02-25-11, 09:55 AM
#71
These physical quality hardly affects the average consumer. I know internet geeks like to dissect these numbers and try to get 'the best' but in actuality, the car will break down due to other problems long before the engine dies. Unless you are racing in Formula 1 or running around in the Arctic, the difference is negligible and will not affect street driven cars. I highly doubt the average consumer will even approach the oil's flashing point. If they are, then something is wrong, or they used oil that's not meant for the car.
Especially in an oil I'm going to use with a long interval but I'm OCD when it comes to my vehicles.
Buy a used vehicle from me and it's a great one.
Last edited by Joeb427; 02-25-11 at 09:59 AM.
02-25-11, 02:22 PM
#73
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HGill2,
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I await your reply.
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I await your reply.
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