MM Review: 2011 Lexus CT200h
#16
Pure highway rating is meaningless and should be ignored by the customer (or else they will be deceived).
Combined rating is what you will get during your driving.
Both cars have official rating of 33 MPG, so 30% less than CT200h.
Not to mention that Fiesta is one class smaller, and as I said, Elantra, in real life user reports on fuelgov.org actually gets 29 MPG and less than Corolla at 32 MPG (while it should be worse).
Yes, if you measure your car fuel consumption at 55mph, it will be 40 MPG (in fact, many small cars will get that, despite EPA ratings, for instance Corolla users on fuelgov.org report 36-38 MPG on average with manual transmission), however you then have to go off the highway, into the traffice and hence the combined rating of 33 MPG.
#17
I will try again - you are not living on the highway and your car does not start at 55mph and ends at 55mph.
Pure highway rating is meaningless and should be ignored by the customer (or else they will be deceived).
Combined rating is what you will get during your driving.
Both cars have official rating of 33 MPG, so 30% less than CT200h.
Not to mention that Fiesta is one class smaller, and as I said, Elantra, in real life user reports on fuelgov.org actually gets 29 MPG and less than Corolla at 32 MPG (while it should be worse).
Yes, if you measure your car fuel consumption at 55mph, it will be 40 MPG (in fact, many small cars will get that, despite EPA ratings, for instance Corolla users on fuelgov.org report 36-38 MPG on average with manual transmission), however you then have to go off the highway, into the traffice and hence the combined rating of 33 MPG.
Pure highway rating is meaningless and should be ignored by the customer (or else they will be deceived).
Combined rating is what you will get during your driving.
Both cars have official rating of 33 MPG, so 30% less than CT200h.
Not to mention that Fiesta is one class smaller, and as I said, Elantra, in real life user reports on fuelgov.org actually gets 29 MPG and less than Corolla at 32 MPG (while it should be worse).
Yes, if you measure your car fuel consumption at 55mph, it will be 40 MPG (in fact, many small cars will get that, despite EPA ratings, for instance Corolla users on fuelgov.org report 36-38 MPG on average with manual transmission), however you then have to go off the highway, into the traffice and hence the combined rating of 33 MPG.
Consumer Reports also got 29 mpg overall on their recent test of the new Elantra...
#19
I will try again - you are not living on the highway and your car does not start at 55mph and ends at 55mph.
Pure highway rating is meaningless and should be ignored by the customer (or else they will be deceived).
Combined rating is what you will get during your driving.
Both cars have official rating of 33 MPG, so 30% less than CT200h.
Not to mention that Fiesta is one class smaller, and as I said, Elantra, in real life user reports on fuelgov.org actually gets 29 MPG and less than Corolla at 32 MPG (while it should be worse).
Yes, if you measure your car fuel consumption at 55mph, it will be 40 MPG (in fact, many small cars will get that, despite EPA ratings, for instance Corolla users on fuelgov.org report 36-38 MPG on average with manual transmission), however you then have to go off the highway, into the traffice and hence the combined rating of 33 MPG.
Pure highway rating is meaningless and should be ignored by the customer (or else they will be deceived).
Combined rating is what you will get during your driving.
Both cars have official rating of 33 MPG, so 30% less than CT200h.
Not to mention that Fiesta is one class smaller, and as I said, Elantra, in real life user reports on fuelgov.org actually gets 29 MPG and less than Corolla at 32 MPG (while it should be worse).
Yes, if you measure your car fuel consumption at 55mph, it will be 40 MPG (in fact, many small cars will get that, despite EPA ratings, for instance Corolla users on fuelgov.org report 36-38 MPG on average with manual transmission), however you then have to go off the highway, into the traffice and hence the combined rating of 33 MPG.
Originally Posted by LexBob2
Consumer Reports also got 29 mpg overall on their recent test of the new Elantra...
Where parallel-hybrids, like I said in my last post, really shine is in the city, where they often get better then in rural areas or in cruise-mode, but this has to be balanced against the hybrid's substantially greater cost.
Last edited by mmarshall; 03-14-11 at 10:41 PM.
#21
Pure highway rating is meaningless and should be ignored by the customer (or else they will be deceived).
Combined rating is what you will get during your driving.
Both cars have official rating of 33 MPG, so 30% less than CT200h.
Not to mention that Fiesta is one class smaller, and as I said, Elantra, in real life user reports on fuelgov.org actually gets 29 MPG and less than Corolla at 32 MPG (while it should be worse).
Not to mention that Fiesta is one class smaller, and as I said, Elantra, in real life user reports on fuelgov.org actually gets 29 MPG and less than Corolla at 32 MPG (while it should be worse).
and a focus hatch is roomier than the CT and a better value. as is a sonata hybrid.
#22
agree with everyones comments in here to some degree, some more so than others.
But let's not forget that the Lexus name plate (or any luxury nameplate) comes with a price, so is it really fair to compare the CT to the Focus? Yes, both are hatchbacks, but you cant expect the CT to be better on all fronts (power, efficiency, space) and cost the same as the Focus.
So perhaps we should solely be looking at the bmw 1, Audi 3, and a big maybe to the C30
does anyone have anything to say in terms of comparisons between those vehicles and the CT?
But let's not forget that the Lexus name plate (or any luxury nameplate) comes with a price, so is it really fair to compare the CT to the Focus? Yes, both are hatchbacks, but you cant expect the CT to be better on all fronts (power, efficiency, space) and cost the same as the Focus.
So perhaps we should solely be looking at the bmw 1, Audi 3, and a big maybe to the C30
does anyone have anything to say in terms of comparisons between those vehicles and the CT?
#23
maybe, but that's a contrived mix of hwy/city that may not be anything like what any given driver does.
and a focus hatch is roomier than the CT and a better value.
#24
agree with everyones comments in here to some degree, some more so than others.
But let's not forget that the Lexus name plate (or any luxury nameplate) comes with a price, so is it really fair to compare the CT to the Focus? Yes, both are hatchbacks, but you cant expect the CT to be better on all fronts (power, efficiency, space) and cost the same as the Focus.
But let's not forget that the Lexus name plate (or any luxury nameplate) comes with a price, so is it really fair to compare the CT to the Focus? Yes, both are hatchbacks, but you cant expect the CT to be better on all fronts (power, efficiency, space) and cost the same as the Focus.
Though in a different class of vehicles, I compared the Focus and Elantra to the CT only to show that conventional, much-less-expensive cars than the CT could virtually equal its highway mileage. The rest of the comments on that issue revolved around the issue of how relevant (or not-relevant) those highway figures actually are. Paul (bitkahuna) brought up some good points.
So perhaps we should solely be looking at the bmw 1, Audi 3, and a big maybe to the C30
does anyone have anything to say in terms of comparisons between those vehicles and the CT?
does anyone have anything to say in terms of comparisons between those vehicles and the CT?
Last edited by mmarshall; 03-14-11 at 11:07 PM.
#25
I am eager to see how this plays out.
I question whether people who are very concerned about gas prices (tight wallets)...... will go out and buy a $35000 hatchback.
kind of defeating the purpose, if you're tight on cash in the first place.
people who can afford to buy a luxury car should not be overly concerned about gas prices.
I question whether people who are very concerned about gas prices (tight wallets)...... will go out and buy a $35000 hatchback.
kind of defeating the purpose, if you're tight on cash in the first place.
people who can afford to buy a luxury car should not be overly concerned about gas prices.
#27
given that cars come in all shapes and sizes nowadays, side moldings have largely outlived their usefulness. All they do is uglify the car.
#28
I question whether people who are very concerned about gas prices (tight wallets)...... will go out and buy a $35000 hatchback.
kind of defeating the purpose, if you're tight on cash in the first place.
people who can afford to buy a luxury car should not be overly concerned about gas prices.
kind of defeating the purpose, if you're tight on cash in the first place.
people who can afford to buy a luxury car should not be overly concerned about gas prices.
#29
#30
Thanks, Fizz. I put a lot of effort into them.
I had planned to look at a CT and maybe test-drive one.......not necessarily write it up or do a formal review. I don't write up every car I try out. But I noticed the CT threads and the fair amount of posts and interest in it, me being retired and having some spare time, and, of course, with this being primarily a Lexus-forum, well....................
Now, wasn't it only a day or two ago you were asking if we wanted to hear a CT review? I think you had it planned all along! haha ; )