Corolla vs Jetta (the guy from VW is bashing Toyota)
04-15-11, 10:00 AM
#16
Each car both have their advantages and disadvantages. Reliability isn't the only thing people care about. Some lease their cars so they don't give a damn about long term reliability, but they do care about interior fit and finish.
It's a salesmen' tactic and it happens with every brand. It's a common practice to highlight your advantages and ignore the disadvantages when you're on camera. One thing I do have to say though is that despite the Corolla having a flimsy trunk, it still is a safe car. The gas struts are just one of the neat features, but defintiely not crucial for safety.
It's a salesmen' tactic and it happens with every brand. It's a common practice to highlight your advantages and ignore the disadvantages when you're on camera. One thing I do have to say though is that despite the Corolla having a flimsy trunk, it still is a safe car. The gas struts are just one of the neat features, but defintiely not crucial for safety.
04-15-11, 10:08 AM
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I do think that VW does tend to appear to use some high gauge steel in their cars. And their fit and finish in many of their models has been impressive. But for some reason they refuse to make their cars reliable. But even if I only keep the car during the warranty period, I still would not want to have to be bothered making repeated visits to the service department for unscheduled service, especially considering how much money is invested into it.
I'm not really sold on the gas struts used on the trunks of cars today. Sure they save some space, but they are just one more thing to go wrong. They will need replacing at some point unlike traditional hinges.
I did not hear any vibration when the doors were closed on the Corolla that the salesman spoke of. I've personally closed them myself. They close with a solid "thunk." And what was that wire hanging down from the trunk in the Corolla? It looked like it was purposely placed there. And as far as long-term durability in the real world is concerned, I see many more 25-30 year old Corollas still on the road than VW Jettas.
I'm not really sold on the gas struts used on the trunks of cars today. Sure they save some space, but they are just one more thing to go wrong. They will need replacing at some point unlike traditional hinges.
I did not hear any vibration when the doors were closed on the Corolla that the salesman spoke of. I've personally closed them myself. They close with a solid "thunk." And what was that wire hanging down from the trunk in the Corolla? It looked like it was purposely placed there. And as far as long-term durability in the real world is concerned, I see many more 25-30 year old Corollas still on the road than VW Jettas.
04-15-11, 10:44 AM
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The very individual will try to sell the car regardless if he/she works for Toyota, Volkswagon, or even Lambo. That's their job and it's very obvious they aren't going to preach about their competitor's offering. If they do, then they aren't good salesmen at all.
04-15-11, 11:09 AM
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Common for salesmen in dealerships. The very individual will try to sell the car regardless if he/she works for Toyota, Volkswagon, or even Lambo. That's their job and it's very obvious they aren't going to preach about their competitor's offering. If they do, then they aren't good salesmen at all.
The very individual will try to sell the car regardless if he/she works for Toyota, Volkswagon, or even Lambo. That's their job and it's very obvious they aren't going to preach about their competitor's offering. If they do, then they aren't good salesmen at all.
04-15-11, 12:03 PM
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I do think that VW does tend to appear to use some high gauge steel in their cars. And their fit and finish in many of their models has been impressive. But for some reason they refuse to make their cars reliable. But even if I only keep the car during the warranty period, I still would not want to have to be bothered making repeated visits to the service department for unscheduled service, especially considering how much money is invested into it.
I'm not really sold on the gas struts used on the trunks of cars today. Sure they save some space, but they are just one more thing to go wrong. They will need replacing at some point unlike traditional hinges.
I did not hear any vibration when the doors were closed on the Corolla that the salesman spoke of. I've personally closed them myself. They close with a solid "thunk." And what was that wire hanging down from the trunk in the Corolla? It looked like it was purposely placed there. And as far as long-term durability in the real world is concerned, I see many more 25-30 year old Corollas still on the road than VW Jettas.
I'm not really sold on the gas struts used on the trunks of cars today. Sure they save some space, but they are just one more thing to go wrong. They will need replacing at some point unlike traditional hinges.
I did not hear any vibration when the doors were closed on the Corolla that the salesman spoke of. I've personally closed them myself. They close with a solid "thunk." And what was that wire hanging down from the trunk in the Corolla? It looked like it was purposely placed there. And as far as long-term durability in the real world is concerned, I see many more 25-30 year old Corollas still on the road than VW Jettas.
:-).
I bet if he tried new Jetta it would show very different traits.
04-15-11, 01:34 PM
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i know the corolla is built very cheaply, and fit n finish is average.
but 15 years from now, that VW will have broken down already...... 5 years earlier.
put the corolla mechanicals into a jetta, and we have a winner.
but 15 years from now, that VW will have broken down already...... 5 years earlier.
put the corolla mechanicals into a jetta, and we have a winner.
04-15-11, 02:03 PM
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After watching this video I realized why Toyota is so much more reliable than Volkswagen because the German company spent so much effort on something the sales agent could brag about in front of the potential customers and totally ignore what the important parts are - the mechanical of a car. Not the hinges or the seal or if the back seat shakes LOL. So what if your thumb could dig into the fender, I don't see Corolla getting fail in crash test. How old is this video anyway, the guy was comparing a 06 Jetta to a 09 Corolla? I wonder if he dares to bring out the 11' Jetta.
04-15-11, 02:10 PM
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After watching this video I realized why Toyota is so much more reliable than Volkswagen because the German company spent so much effort on something the sales agent could brag about in front of the potential customers and totally ignore what the important parts are - the mechanical of a car. Not the hinges or the seal or if the back seat shakes LOL. So what if your thumb could dig into the fender, I don't see Corolla getting fail in crash test. How old is this video anyway, the guy was comparing a 06 Jetta to a 09 Corolla? I wonder if he dares to bring out the 11' Jetta.
They fail to understand that the average buyer in this market could care less about sturdy trunk shocks or solid sheet metal. They want a car that is:
Comfortable to drive
Affordable to maintain
Reliable in the long-run
And good on gas
MOST buyers in this segment are not looking for a car that has superior chassis welding, "SPORTS" suspension, over-engineered components,or race-car handling. They want a daily driver that will get them from point a to point b and preferably out of the shop as much as possible.
Go for a drive and as an experiment count how many older corollas and camry's you will see on the road and compare that number to how many older VW models ALTOGETHER you see on the road.
