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Old 05-09-11, 02:47 PM
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Old 05-09-11, 02:52 PM
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I think the Lexus is the only one that looks out of place, Sorry but it looks a Toyota Matrix, I hate all the New hybrid 4 cylinder cars they have put out, the designs look like corollas
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Cool... although option for option, Ct200h is cheaper than both 3 series and A3.
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Wow that 320d holds itself up pretty well to the competition in regards to performance and efficiency. Despite the higher price, the 320d would be my pick followed by the CT200, The A3 1.3 and then the S40. Volvo is in desperate need of an overhaul for their small sedan
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Old 05-09-11, 04:00 PM
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All the others are much older than the CT so I can't really consider them. I'm very happy with the experience of hybrid ownership and the CT delivers familar Lexus qualities.

2nd for me is actually the Volvo, I just love the way it looks inside and out. Then I'd with the the A3 and the BMW very long name car last.
 
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Wow that 320d holds itself up pretty well to the competition in regards to performance and efficiency. Despite the higher price, the 320d would be my pick followed by the CT200, The A3 1.3 and then the S40. Volvo is in desperate need of an overhaul for their small sedan
yes, also keep in mind they didnt do much city traffic, diesels are very good at smaller speeds, i am surprised A3 and Volvo didnt do better.

... and i realize what happened here, they used base prices but drove optioned out cars. Matching equipment for 320d is 33.5k, obviously considerably more than CT200h.

I wonder why didnt they use 1 series? I guess it doesnt have ED version?
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Old 05-09-11, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
I wonder why didnt they use 1 series? I guess it doesnt have ED version?
At first I thought the BMW 1 series Efficient Dynamics wasn't sold in the UK, but then I checked the British BMW website.


BMW 116d ED: £19,800, 118 CO2 g/km, 62.8 mpg (combined), 116-horsepower, 0-62 mph in 10.3 seconds.

That car should have been included. But still, the larger, heavier and more powerful 320d ED performed impressively in this test. And it's the only RWD car here which would put it at a "fuel economy disadvantage" against its FWD competitors here - and yet it still impresses with amazing fuel economy.


Link: http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesand...S08%3D,00.html
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Another Autocar test.

Lexus CT 200h vs VW Golf 1.6 TDI

Acceleration (8 deg C / Dry):

Lexus CT 200h SE-L
0-30mph: 3.8s
0-60mph: 11.1s
0-90mph: 26.8s
0-100mph: 37.2s

30-70mph: 11.4s

1/4 Mile: 18.5s @ 76.7mph

0-1000m (1km): 33.6s @ 97.2mph

VW Golf 1.6 TDI Bluemotion
0-30mph: 3.7s
0-60mph: 11.1s
0-90mph: 27.2s
0-100mph: 37.6s

30-70mph: 11.2s

1/4 Mile: 18.3s @ 76.9mph

0-1000m (1km): 33.5s @ 96.6mph



Dry Circuit Lap time
- VW Golf 1.6 TDI: 1min 29.3s
- Lexus CT 200h: 1min 32s

Wet Circuit Lap Time:
- VW Golf 1.6 TDI: 1min 16s
- Lexus CT 200h: 1min 17.7s


Lexus Ratings
- Design & Engineering: 3.5/5
- Interior: 4/5
- Performance: 3/5
- Ride & Handling: 2.5/5
- Buying & Owning: 4/5

Autocar Verdict: 3/5


Autocar Road Test Top Five:
1. BMW 320d: 4.5/5
2. VW Golf 1.6 TDI: 4/5
3. Toyota Prius T-Spirit: 4/5
4. Audi A3 1.6 TDI Sport S-Tronic: 3.5/5
5. Lexus CT 200h SE-L: 3/5




































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Old 05-09-11, 05:02 PM
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i have seen Lexus CT, it is a component entry level Lexus and i would actually consider buying IF the acceleration isn't too bad.
drop the HS 250 into the engine bay and i am sold.
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Old 05-09-11, 05:58 PM
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I had a feeling the CT would be in last place.
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Old 05-09-11, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JessePS
I had a feeling the CT would be in last place.
Between the O.P and the Euro mag it was a no brainer
 
Old 05-09-11, 06:50 PM
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Can't say it wasn't a thorough review though.
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Old 05-09-11, 09:22 PM
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The only downside with Audi is that you can't combine Multitronic CVT with quattro AWD atm. On the other hand, at least there is S-tronic (DSG).
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Old 05-09-11, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Between the O.P and the Euro mag it was a no brainer
Seemed pretty fair and even to me. There was no indication that they were trying to dislike it. The CT's reviews have been consistent in that most say it succeeds acceptably as a hybrid but has a choppy ride and falters as a driver's car.
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Old 05-10-11, 12:11 AM
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there's just no beating that bmw. they always master the driving aspect

if the 3 series weren't so ugly, it would be my first choice.
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