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Old 05-31-11, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsuguy


The Ford Explorer was never a very stable vehicle to start - it was one of the more top heavy vehicles, and, it was originally recommended during design to lower the engine just a couple inches to lower the center of gravity to compensate for the higher CG when it was adapted from the Bronco 2 to become an Explorer. They essentially stayed with a similar chassis / engine layout, but added more structure, higher, than the Bronco 2 employed.
Early-model Explorers used the ancient Ford Twin-I-Beam independent front-suspension, wihich is traced back to the F-100 pickup of 1964. That antiquated design wasn't updated until after the Explorer-Firestone fiasco.

Next, the tires, oh the tires... The Firestone Wilderness AT, Radial ATX and Radial ATX 2 tires were the ones involved in the lawsuits... Ford took it upon themselves to issue a recommended tire pressure of 26 psi, against Firestone's recommendation of 30 psi. The door placard listed 26 psi on all Explorers back then... The tires that were listed as "dangerous" were indeed coming apart, but with hardly any higher percentage than any other tire line up on the market... So long as they were properly maintained, they would last many many miles, and even as recent as 3 years ago, I had people requesting those specific tires because they never turned theirs in during the recall (at that time 8 years ago, so those were OLD tires), but they loved them so much. This happened a few times!

Alright, so, another interesting statistic is that almost, if not all, of those blowouts that resulted in accidents were in states with higher than average temperatures - Texas, Arizona, etc. We all know that heat is a tires worst enemy - it is put together with heat, heat also takes it apart...

Run a tire too low on air pressure and it gets hot. Run it too low too fast and the sidewall fails, run it too low on a hot highway for a long period of time, and the heat builds up throughout the entire carcass of the tire, and eventually the tread might separate...

So, we know why tires fail - either through defect, lack of maintenance, bad design, or a combination of the three... On top of the already low air pressure Ford recommended, another side note is that an unchecked tire may be well within the norm to lose 1 psi of air per month... Many people rarely check their air pressure unless a tire looks low - many radial tires may not look low until they are at or below 15 psi...

Now, lets look in to how many of these accidents probably went down - loaded, on a trip, lots of weight, forgot to check the air in the tires - hot highways, long miles between stops... then couple a blowout or tire failure with a vehicle that isn't inherently stable to start, and the rest of the tires are mushy because they are underinflated as well, and you have a perfect recipe for a huge accident... Remember, there are thousands of tire failures daily, whether be a flat tire or some other sort of tire failure, and vehicles aren't rolling over every day due to it, the driver simply pulls over to swap the spare...
A good explanation.....you're correct on every count here. I've posted on it myself in other threads.

Ford's drop in the recommended PSI to 26 (formerly 30) was done because of owner-complaints about the stiff, truck-like ride of the early Explorers (also partly attributed to the old Twin-I-Beam front end). Ford, naturally, found it easier and a whole lot cheaper to simply drop a few pounds in the tires and make them ride softer than to make a suspension redesign, notwithstanding the fact that 26 PSI was simply too low in hot tempratures, baked road-surfaces, high-speed, and overloaded vehicles...........AND traditional owner-neglect in checking their tires and keeping even the 26 PSI up.

Firestone engineers knew better....as you note, they wanted at least 30 PSI, and protested the 26 as marginally unsafe.......but their voices were ignored in the pursuit of a quick, easy, cheap fix. Ford couldn't substitute other tires on the Explorer, at the time, because of the buisness-contract they had with Firestone.
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Old 05-31-11, 11:22 PM
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What a stupid policy. I don't think anyone who buys the new Explorer equates it to the old tire-blowing issue. The vehicles are a night and day difference. U-Haul's lawyers need to get real.
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Old 06-01-11, 05:58 PM
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CHQ lawyers making the blanket rules, not expecting that a UHaul drone/employee could identify a gen1 Explorer (from gens 2/3/4 and the current gen 5).
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