Toyota Dealer Meeting Las Vegas (2012 Camry is Coming!)
06-30-11, 10:34 PM
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I already don't like it. The number one thing that has made the current Camry look decent are it's slick, tapered headlights. Just about every car that's had thin headlights like these has been a success. The pic above shows bloated, truckish, Ford 500, droopy headlights, which is played out and dated. Hope the rest pleases more.
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06-30-11, 11:04 PM
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Interesting, so this photo was the real deal.
07-01-11, 12:25 AM
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Correct - Rav4 will be here early next year. I heard good things about all the products that were shown, but unfortunately did hear that the FRS has been noticeably toned down for production from the concept we last saw. Supposedly the front end is a bit different and obviously there are more tame wheels and rear valences. I think the comment about Avalon vs. Lexus was in regard to sedans, as there is no way it could look better than the LFA! 
The folks that I spoke to were ranting and raving about the Avalon, and were pleased with the Camry, but legitimately excited about the Avalon. The updated US Camry supposedly looks better than the concept that was shown last year, but is still not significantly different from the current car.
The folks that I spoke to were ranting and raving about the Avalon, and were pleased with the Camry, but legitimately excited about the Avalon. The updated US Camry supposedly looks better than the concept that was shown last year, but is still not significantly different from the current car.
Yes, the new Camry is not significantly different than the 6th gen model, but why should it be? Toyota is not Hyundai
. They respect tradition and would not want to alienate current Camry owners. As I said, the exterior is an evolution of the 6th gen exterior with a few Mark X styling cues .Well I can't wait to see the new Avalon based on these comments. Also anxiously await the new Rav4, as I've seen a very grainy prototype shot of it, and it looked good. Futuristic and sporty, but still an elegant Toyota design.
Who are "most" people?
Where are you making up this info from? If we look at the facts, which is market share and sales numbers, then Toyota over the last several years has held on to most of its market share even as Hyundai has grown and increased sales.
Very close, but that is a poor shot/render from a bad angle. The front is very close, but that sides are a bit different. You can already see from Toyota's official teaser shot the render is a bit off with the headlights.
I already don't like it. The number one thing that has made the current Camry look decent are it's slick, tapered headlights. Just about every car that's had thin headlights like these has been a success. The pic above shows bloated, truckish, Ford 500, droppy headlights, which is played out and dated. Hope the rest pleases more.
That teaser shot is from another poor angle that doesn't show the full headlights, especially within the context of the rest of the car. I wish Toyota would stop releasing PR shots taken from poor angles or with poor field of view. Toyota needs to change some of their PR photographers.
Best way I can describe the headlights is that they look "sharp", especially on the SE.
Yes it was scripted, but I would give the guy a break considering his limited English skills. It's inspiring IMO to see Toyota's CEO personally making a video about the new Camry. The upcoming ad campaign for the Camry will be a true blitz, a real onslaught. I don't think Toyota has ever done 40 commercials before for a single new vehicle launch, as far as I can remember. That is just massive.
07-01-11, 01:28 AM
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In case anyone is wondering, I feel the interior in the 2012 Camry looks better than the Sonata, and from what I've heard the interior will be better quality than the Sonata.
Also, here is an actual 2012 Camry in camo, compared to the teaser shot. You can also spot minor differences with the black and white render. You can clearly see on the camo car the headlights will still be somewhat slim and tapered.
Compared to:
Also, here is an actual 2012 Camry in camo, compared to the teaser shot. You can also spot minor differences with the black and white render. You can clearly see on the camo car the headlights will still be somewhat slim and tapered.
Compared to:
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07-01-11, 06:59 AM
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Toyota did a driving comparison event between 7th gen Camry, Sonata, Accord and Fusion at the dealer meeting and from what I understand, it would have been a more fair comparison if they had included the TL, LaCrosse, ES350 and some entry level luxury models. Interior and driving dynamics of the Camry seem to be in another league among its competitors.
You might think, "Well, of course Toyota dealers are going to like the Camry," but you'd be surprised with how critical these people can be. The Camry, no surprise, is the car that Toyota dealers depend on and they know that it has to be spot on and nothing less. These are probably the biggest critics of the car, and they absolutely loved it.
People will look at the 7th gen Camry and probably say that they didn't do enough to differentiate the design but most of the R&D money has been spent on quality - inside the cabin, under the hood, and at the wheels. Completely new interior and I'm hearing that the XLE has a leather stitched dash. 3GR has been updated a bit and now produces a bit more power and 2-3 better MPG, same for the 4cyl. Suspensions have been completely revamped for more control and feedback (even on non SE models) and the cars have been vibration tested for soundness and quality up to 125MPH for both 4cyl and V6. I've also heard that the body panel gaps are tighter than any Lexus sedan in production right now.
You might think, "Well, of course Toyota dealers are going to like the Camry," but you'd be surprised with how critical these people can be. The Camry, no surprise, is the car that Toyota dealers depend on and they know that it has to be spot on and nothing less. These are probably the biggest critics of the car, and they absolutely loved it.
People will look at the 7th gen Camry and probably say that they didn't do enough to differentiate the design but most of the R&D money has been spent on quality - inside the cabin, under the hood, and at the wheels. Completely new interior and I'm hearing that the XLE has a leather stitched dash. 3GR has been updated a bit and now produces a bit more power and 2-3 better MPG, same for the 4cyl. Suspensions have been completely revamped for more control and feedback (even on non SE models) and the cars have been vibration tested for soundness and quality up to 125MPH for both 4cyl and V6. I've also heard that the body panel gaps are tighter than any Lexus sedan in production right now.
07-01-11, 07:58 AM
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Toyota did a driving comparison event between 7th gen Camry, Sonata, Accord and Fusion at the dealer meeting and from what I understand, it would have been a more fair comparison if they had included the TL, LaCrosse, ES350 and some entry level luxury models. Interior and driving dynamics of the Camry seem to be in another league among its competitors.
You might think, "Well, of course Toyota dealers are going to like the Camry," but you'd be surprised with how critical these people can be. The Camry, no surprise, is the car that Toyota dealers depend on and they know that it has to be spot on and nothing less. These are probably the biggest critics of the car, and they absolutely loved it.
People will look at the 7th gen Camry and probably say that they didn't do enough to differentiate the design but most of the R&D money has been spent on quality - inside the cabin, under the hood, and at the wheels. Completely new interior and I'm hearing that the XLE has a leather stitched dash. 3GR has been updated a bit and now produces a bit more power and 2-3 better MPG, same for the 4cyl. Suspensions have been completely revamped for more control and feedback (even on non SE models) and the cars have been vibration tested for soundness and quality up to 125MPH for both 4cyl and V6. I've also heard that the body panel gaps are tighter than any Lexus sedan in production right now.
You might think, "Well, of course Toyota dealers are going to like the Camry," but you'd be surprised with how critical these people can be. The Camry, no surprise, is the car that Toyota dealers depend on and they know that it has to be spot on and nothing less. These are probably the biggest critics of the car, and they absolutely loved it.
People will look at the 7th gen Camry and probably say that they didn't do enough to differentiate the design but most of the R&D money has been spent on quality - inside the cabin, under the hood, and at the wheels. Completely new interior and I'm hearing that the XLE has a leather stitched dash. 3GR has been updated a bit and now produces a bit more power and 2-3 better MPG, same for the 4cyl. Suspensions have been completely revamped for more control and feedback (even on non SE models) and the cars have been vibration tested for soundness and quality up to 125MPH for both 4cyl and V6. I've also heard that the body panel gaps are tighter than any Lexus sedan in production right now.
b. I could already see on that teaser pic that it has lexus quality exterior panels, you can see it there how tight tolerances are.
07-01-11, 08:00 AM
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generally our european toyota's have been built to the higher standard than other vehicles in class, so i am always a bit surprised to see US factories have not the same tight panel gaps, etc.
07-01-11, 08:26 AM
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That camo Camry almost looks like it has a version of the Lexus LF-GH grille style.
07-01-11, 08:47 AM
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Interior will obviously have Entune. What you've heard from other forums is there as well, including the multi-colored leather seats, and the stitched dash. Obviously not all Camry models will get the high-end options. Most of these will definitely be on the XLE though. On the other hand, even the base model will be improved in quality and materials compared to the current 6th gen base model.
07-01-11, 10:39 AM
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07-01-11, 10:47 AM
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Will the Camry SE still have the usual glued on body kit?