Germany’s Bottom Ten: Deutschland’s Least Wanted Cars
#16
Thanks, Andrew. I know Hyundai, Kia, and Daewoo quite well (even their rebadged-vehicles), but I wasn't familiar with Ssangyong.
You can tell, though, just by the profile, that it's probably not a U.S.-certified design. It's quite high and narrow (I'm assuming with a corresponding center-of-gravity), and, especially if it doesn't have VSC, might not pass handling/roll-over standards here. And, the fact that there is only one registered one in Germany shows that Germans apparantly don't seem to think much of it. Must not have any kind of a dealer-network there, either.
Are they available in Canada (Vancouver) where you live? I've never seen one in the U.S.
You can tell, though, just by the profile, that it's probably not a U.S.-certified design. It's quite high and narrow (I'm assuming with a corresponding center-of-gravity), and, especially if it doesn't have VSC, might not pass handling/roll-over standards here. And, the fact that there is only one registered one in Germany shows that Germans apparantly don't seem to think much of it. Must not have any kind of a dealer-network there, either.
Are they available in Canada (Vancouver) where you live? I've never seen one in the U.S.
The problem is its butt ugly and a depreciation nightmare.
#18
Not surprised about the 407 from Peugeot. When I was in Mexico, Peugot sold the 4 series and it was so overpriced they had to drop the price significantly because it just couldn't compete against other cars in its price range and even after it dropped it still had problems. The Ssangyong was a rare car to see. Some diplomats had it and I remember one gray market importer brought them in. Had a Mercedes engine if I remember correct and a few people actually thought my RX300 was a Ssangyong (since Lexus wasn't there).
#19
Not surprised about the 407 from Peugeot. When I was in Mexico, Peugot sold the 4 series and it was so overpriced they had to drop the price significantly because it just couldn't compete against other cars in its price range and even after it dropped it still had problems. The Ssangyong was a rare car to see. Some diplomats had it and I remember one gray market importer brought them in. Had a Mercedes engine if I remember correct and a few people actually thought my RX300 was a Ssangyong (since Lexus wasn't there).
508 is selling quite well.
#22
if chevy sells every single one that they make, and they had to re-vamp production in order to keep up with demand, and dealers are able to sell them with insane mark-ups AND keep the tax credit for themselves, how the hell do you come up with this statement?
#23
Ssangyong Stavic (called 'Rodius' in some markets)
Labelled by many as the "ugliest vehicle in the world"
Quotes about it:
That says it all
And yet my Papa thought that it look as futuristic as a spaceship
Labelled by many as the "ugliest vehicle in the world"
Quotes about it:
Originally Posted by Top Gear Magazine
"a car that looks like it got bottled in a pub brawl and stitched back together by a blind man"
Originally Posted by Wheels Auto Magazine Australia
"having a face like a burnt thong"
Originally Posted by Drive Life Australia
"so cack-handed in every aesthetic department it makes the average people-mover owner feel like they are getting about in an ultra-stylish Italian sports machine"
Originally Posted by Sydney Morning Herald Motoring Section
"collapsing bus shelter on wheels".
And yet my Papa thought that it look as futuristic as a spaceship
#24
^If you changed the front of this van, changed the rims, and put Toyota badges on it, people here would be saying how AMAZING it is. The rear reminds me of all those boxy vans you get in Japan.
#29
So, it's easy to come up with a statement like this........there's a lot of truth in it. GM has managed to convince a number of people (but not as many as you suggest ) that the Volt is worth what it costs. I, however, am not one of them....and, yes, I have reviewed and test-driven the Volt myself.
So, in a nutshell, I respect your opinion......but simply disagree with it.
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