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Old 11-18-11, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
why are you using that ancient 10-15 standard? JC08 is much more representative.

as said before, I expect real life of c to be considerably better than in regular Prius due to 500lbs less weight.
on the other hand, epa for highway wont be as good since it uses smaller engine.

but again, real life - Prius c will eat Prius G3 for dinner.
Ancient standard or not it's still representative of the relative fuel efficiency differences between two cars. Do you seriously believe that using a smaller/lighter wheel makes no difference in fuel economy, as the identical JC08 figures of the 14" and 15"-wheeled versions indicate? I don't read Japanese but it's obvious that the JC08 figure next to the 15"-wheeled version has an asterisk mark for a reason, very possibly that it was not actually tested at the time the brochure was made and that it simply re-uses the 14"-wheeled version's figure.

The 15"-wheeled Prius c gets worse fuel economy than the 15"-wheeled Prius in combined fuel economy tests. Fact.

If the 15"-wheeled Prius c got 50mpg combined the PR at the US debut would've mentioned it. Instead they only mentioned ">50mpg city", which means the US-bound Prius c can't even get the regular Prius's 50mpg combined rating. Simple as that.


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Old 11-18-11, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
in few months - problem with c and Prius is high yen, so who knows what will they be able to price it at.
Head Engineer already said they expect for it to become Toyota's best seller in Japan, but not in the world due to pricing difficulties with high Yen and Japanese production.
Wouldn't it be better for Toyota to manufacture the Prius C in the States, so it can avoid the high currency exchange?

Then again, the prices in Japan would be even higher, right?

But, I'm sure that they sell more Prii's in the States than they do in Japan..right?
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Old 12-26-11, 06:19 PM
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http://youtu.be/B706GoaPYLM

Maybe merge this thread : https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...ighlight=Prius, with this thread or vice versa, Mods.

TRD Prius C
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/12...a-prius-c.html
On the same day that the regular Aqua went on sale in its home market, Toyota's TRD racing and performance division announced a slew of tuning upgrades for the sub-compact hatchback.

Starting with the exterior package, TRD's offerings include a new front apron with additional air vents and optional LED daytime running lights, matching side skirts, a roof spoiler, and a rear apron that incorporates a diffuser in a matte black finish.

For the interior, there's a new TRD push-button start while performance mods are limited -for the time being- to a sports exhaust system with a pair of chrome tailpipes, larger alloy wheels and a suspension package with new springs and shock absorbers that lower the car's ride height.

TRD said that it will release more styling accessories and performance mods in the near future.












Looks good.
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JDM Aqua brochure:






















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Old 12-26-11, 08:19 PM
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Pretty awesome fuel economy.
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Old 12-26-11, 08:43 PM
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Toyota really seems to be getting it together. With TRD parts what a fun DD this could be getting over 50 MPG!
 
Old 12-31-11, 06:27 AM
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FYI there are 60,000 pre-orders for the "c"
 
Old 12-31-11, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Incredible
Wouldn't it be better for Toyota to manufacture the Prius C in the States, so it can avoid the high currency exchange?

Then again, the prices in Japan would be even higher, right?

But, I'm sure that they sell more Prii's in the States than they do in Japan..right?
sorry for late reply... as to the production, generally it would be cheaper in the US, yes of course.... all other things being equal... since US so low right now compared to yen, they would make 30% extra just on currency basis.

but you cant calculate it like that, who knows what is the cost of setting up such factory in US (in Japan they have excess capacity), same goes for battery factory. If it made sense, they would have already done it.

And they actually sell far better in Japan than aynwhere else... Prius and Prius v sold 33k in Japan last month and I think 15k in USA. Prius c will sell even better in Japan than US, because in US small cars dont sell that well while in Japan, such cars sell the best (Honda Fit and Toyota Yaris are best selling non-hybrids in Japan, while it is F150 and Camry in USA, so you can see the difference in prefference).

If you look at volumes alone, Toyota already produces all the best sellers in the USA - cars that sell significantly better in US than in Japan, are also made in US... Camry barely sells anything in Japan, Corolla sells also 4x better in US, Rav4 sells better in US, and US centric cars like Tundra, Tacoma, Sienna, Venza are not even sold in Japan, or anywhere else (in same configuration, Rav4 does but it is different version).
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Default Officially Revealed - 53/47 city/highway - Under $19K









Toyota Prius c Completes the Prius Family of Vehicles

• Highest rated city fuel economy of any vehicle without a plug • Introduces proven hybrid powertrain at MSRP below $19,000 • Wide array of available convenience and premium technology

DETROIT , Michigan, Jan.10, 2012 – Following the U.S. debut of the all-new 2012 Prius c at the 2012 North American International Auto Show here, Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., plans to bring this dynamically styled, five-door hatchback to market in March of 2012, and introduce Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive to the subcompact segment.

The letter "c" represents "city" in the Prius c name. Designed to function as an urban-friendly vehicle with an engaging driving experience, hatchback utility, and a city fuel economy rating of 53 mpg, Prius c offers the highest city mpg rating of any vehicle without a plug. The all-new Prius c joins the Prius Family, which includes the third generation Prius Liftback, the versatile new Prius v and the Prius Plug-in Hybrid, which will debut in early 2012.

Beginning with the first generation fourteen years ago, over two million Prius units have been sold worldwide. Prius remains the world's premier eco-vehicle brand, and has made great strides establishing consumer trust in hybrid technology. With Prius c, Toyota will make the market's most proven hybrid technology available to subcompact car shoppers with a starting MSRP below $19,000.

Unique Place in the Prius Family:

A gateway product into the Prius Family, the new Prius c will find favor with younger shoppers seeking a smartly designed, fuel-efficient subcompact car packing advanced drivetrain and in-car technology. The Prius c will offer engaging driving dynamics with superior urban maneuverability. When the 2012 Prius c arrives in showrooms this spring, the all-new hatchback will offer:

The highest rated city fuel economy estimate of any vehicle without a plug*; 53 mpg in the city, and 46 mpg on the highway, for a combined rating of 50 mpg The most accessible Prius will feature a starting MSRP below $19,000 with proven hybrid powertrain and premium technology

A premium subcompact car experience thanks to a wide array of available convenience and advanced in-car electronics features, including a standard 3.5-in. full color TFT multi-information display, hands-free phone capability, USB port with iPod® connectivity, and available Display Audio system with Navigation and Entune™

The scale of the all-new Prius c becomes apparentwhen compared to the familiar proportions of the midsize Prius Liftback. The Prius c is smaller and lighter than its midsize Prius stable mate with 19.1 inches less length (157.3 vs. 176.4 inches OAL) and 542 lbs. less weight than the Prius Liftback (2,500 vs. 3,042 lbs.). In adapting the Hybrid Synergy Drive to the smaller Prius c platform, each of the system's major components were re-designed to reduce weight, scale, and improve efficiency.

Four Grades with Generous Standard Equipment:

The Prius c will be available in four trim levels offering desirable features, equipment, and enhanced capability giving consumers a compelling value proposition. Prius c provides many standard features such as automatic climate control, tilt-telescopic steering wheel with audio, climate, Multi-Information Display and Bluetooth® hands-free controls, and remote keyless entry with illuminated entry among a long list of standard equipment.

Efficient Packaging:

The Prius c's effective packaging design strategically locates key drivetrain components within the chassis to help optimize interior space and handling. The compact gasoline engine, transaxle and power-control unit are optimally placed within the vehicle to help enhance weight distribution and lower the center of gravity. In addition, the hybrid battery and fuel tank are positioned together beneath the rear seat, ideally distributing their mass within the wheelbase to improve weight distribution to help enhance handling. By locating the battery and fuel tank below the rear seat, the Prius c is able to offer 104 cu. ft. of interior volume (87.4 cu. ft. passenger volume, 17.1 cu. ft. cargo volume).

Prius c Hybrid Synergy Drive Propulsion:

The Prius c's Hybrid Synergy Drive system integrates the operation of components that include a gasoline engine, an electric motor within a Continuously Variable Transaxle, a nickel-metal hydride battery, a power control unit (inverter), a DC-DC converter, a step-up converter and a hybrid control computer. The hybrid control computer governs the seamless application of gasoline engine and electric power depending on driving demands and selected drive mode.

The Prius c relies on a SULEV (Tier 2 Bin 3) rated 1.5-liter in-line, four-cylinder gasoline engine that utilizes an Atkinson cycle to increase efficiency. This engineproduces 73 horsepower and 82 lb.-ft. of torque, contributing to a total hybrid system output of 99 hp.

The Prius c's hybrid system utilizes a 144-volt nickel-metal hydride battery pack that has been located under the rear passenger seat, near the center of the vehicle, and low in the chassis to help improve the center of gravity.

Prius c offers three distinct drive modes: Normal, Eco, and EV mode. Eco mode reduces overall energy consumption by governing climate control and throttle to improve vehicle efficiency. Under certain conditions, the EV mode allows the Prius c to be driven solely by electric power for a short distance (under 1 mile) while remaining below 25 mph.

Vehicle Structure – Improved Handling and Safety The Prius c's body structure makes extensive use of lightweight, high-strength steel to help reduce vehicle mass and improve fuel economy. The strategic use of high-tensile-strength steel contributes to the vehicle's ability to absorb and disperse impact energies helping enhance occupant safety. The high level of torsional rigidity afforded by the Prius c body structure allows the suspension to be more optimally tuned for ride and handling.

Suspension and Steering for Enhanced Handling:

The front suspension uses a Macpherson strut design, and the rear rides on a tuned torsion beam. The coil-spring and shock-absorber characteristics of the Prius c have been tuned to enhance handling, flat turning, and smooth ride comfort. Prius c is available with 15- or 16-inch wheel-and-tire combinations. The 15-inch wheels are available in steel with wheel cover for base model or in aluminum alloy for elevated trim levels. Prius c models equipped with the available 16-inch aluminum alloy wheels enjoy enhanced handling thanks to a faster steering ratio (2.28 turns lock to lock), which helps quicken the vehicle's dynamic response.

Youthful Exterior and Interior Design:

The Prius c exterior design helps project a fun, youthful attitude for this all-new addition to the Prius family, while offering excellent aerodynamic performance. Extensive aerodynamic features were engineered into the Prius c to help achieve a 0.28 coefficient of drag. Adding character to this subcompact, the Prius c's lower-body styling is wider below the beltline, featuring sculpted rear flares to help express a sturdy, athletic stance that communicates a more agile driving experience.

The Prius c's available exterior colors include vibrant hues that are unique and expressive. The available colors for Prius c include three new colors – Habanero, Moonglow, and Summer Rain Metallic – along with Blue Streak Metallic, Absolutely Red, Black Sand Pearl, Magnetic Gray Metallic, Classic Silver Metallic, and Super White.

The Prius c interior design seeks to create a space that is futuristic yet passenger friendly. Using black as a basic interior color, the door trim, seat surfaces, and instrument panel feature treatments in lighter colors to help create contrast.

Display Audio and Connectivity with Entune® The 2012 Prius c will offer three audio system configurations. A base audio system features either four or six speakers, depending on the model, and includes AM/FM CD player with MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, USB port with iPod® connectivity, hands-free phone capability, phone book access, and music streaming via Bluetooth® wireless technology.

The Display Audio with Navigation and Entune™ has six speakers and augments capability with a 6.1-inch touchscreen, SiriusXM™ Satellite Radio capability (with 3-month trial subscription to XM Select package), HD Radio™ with iTunes® tagging, and advanced voice recognition. Toyota's Entune™ multi-media system functions through select smart phones' interface that brings applications such as Bing and Pandora® to the vehicle audio display. It also features real time information such as traffic, weather, fuel prices, sports, and stocks.

Standard Safety Features:

The Prius c is equipped with nine airbags strategically located to help protect the driver and passengers in the event of certain types of accidents. The new 2012 Prius c, like allToyota models, is equipped with the standard Star Safety System™, which includes Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), Traction Control (TRAC), Anti-lock Brake System (ABS), Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD), Brake Assist (BA), and Smart Stop Technology (SST).

* 2012 EPA 53/46/50 city/highway/combined mpg estimates. Actual mileage will vary.
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Old 01-10-12, 02:11 PM
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this will do extremely well in sales since the economy is still in the tank and Gas is shooting back up again....people will strongly consider this as an affordable budget minded package for 19k. heck even I would consider one for a daily commuter and park the LS for trips only.
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Everyone was expecting this to beat the standard Prius' MPG numbers easily, but surprisingly, it only beats it marginally in the city. The regular Prius still wins on the highway (likely due the Prius' longer body and therefore more aerodynamic shape). So what we have is a 50 mpg combined tie.

I would still choose a standard Prius.
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Old 01-10-12, 02:31 PM
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This one also has a smaller engine which won't help on the freeways. I wouldn't mind adding this to the household to just putput around town
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http://youtu.be/53FG1sIF-Bg

http://youtu.be/Fe4g1iOH2Ek

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Standard Prius mpg with the lower price is going to be a huge win. very nice work, Toyota. I was hoping for more mpg, but this definitely gets the job done!
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Old 01-10-12, 06:31 PM
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This is going to sell like HOTCAKES. WOw, great job Toyota.
 


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