Fizzboy7

So after 12 years of nothing, all the above is supposed to surface in three years? I doubt it. No one at Honda has seen that big of a light nor has it ever been done so quickly after such a long low. I'll believe it when I see it.

rominl

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catching up, that is?

Blackraven

Finally, some new engines as well as announcements of continued usage and improvements in CVTs and yup, Honda's first entry into DSG gearboxes

Koma

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I know everyone likes to dump on Honda but let's do a compare with (mostly) everyone's favorite make here.

-- A 3.5-liter V6 with 310 hp and 265 lb-ft of torque. This is 30 more horsepower and 11 more lb-ft than the outgoing 3.5-liter engine in the Acura TL.


3.5 V6
275 hp and 257 tq without direct injection
305 hp and 278 tq with direct injection


-- A 2.4-liter inline-four with 181 hp and 177 lb-ft of torque. This will be the base engine in the redesigned Accord coming next fall and could find its way into the midcycle change for the CR-V in 2013.


2.5 I4 (slightly higher displacement)
Toyota RAV4 (ASA33/38), 181 PS (133 kW; 179 hp)@6000, 233 N·m (172 ft·lbf)@4000
Toyota Camry ASV40 (Base & LE), 171 PS (126 kW; 169 hp)@6000, 226 N·m (167 ft·lbf)@4100
Toyota Camry ASV40 (SE), 181 PS (133 kW; 179 hp)@6000, 232 N·m (171 ft·lbf)@4100
Scion tC (ANT20), 180 hp (130 kW), 173 lb·ft (235 N·m)

2.4 I4 (old motor)
166 hp and 163 tq


-- A 1.8-liter inline-four with 148 hp and 133 lb-ft of torque, which could be installed in the 2013 midcycle change for the Civic.


1.8 I4 2ZR Engine (mostly widely used 1.8 application the states)
134hp and 128 tq

1.8 2ZR with valvematic (not used in any US application yet)
147 and 132 tq


-- A 1.5-liter inline-four with 127 hp and 111 lb-ft of torque for the Fit, perhaps in time for the midcycle change in 2012.


1.5 I4
107hp and 103 tq

-- A 1.6-liter turbodiesel engine that has comparable power to a current 2.2-liter diesel, with 220 lb-ft of torque but much better fuel economy.


No comparable motor in the states

They also are employing a dual clutch transmission.

Don't get me wrong I prefer a Toyota over a Honda any day. Honda is just playing catch up here, it's not innovative.

One thing about my Scion tC that I hate is that it's a 2.4 I4 with abysmal fuel economy figures and sub-par power.

seanlee

Honda's first entry?

think again, VFR1200F had DSG and it was introduced in 2009.

BNR34

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LOL, I was gonna say the same thing

Welcome to 2006?

I said 2006 as the 305 hp in the IS350 came out in 2006, at least give Honda one extra year

Vladi

E SH-AWD will be wicked! Probably the best electro/ice combo you will see.

Interestingly it's very similar to what Mitsubishi will put on market next year Some crazy stuff completely different to any other manufacturer approach.

Hoovey689

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2005 marked the year of production for 2006 IS models.

And 306hp*

LexFather

2005 top Honda/Acura has 300hp

ALL NEW ENGINE for 2013/2014...drumroll please..... 310hp

lmfao

Nice to see they copy the GS 450h with the next generation of hybrids they will have. If you write things down, its amazing how far below the curve they are in technology, luxury and power.

Top HP
Acura-305hp tops
Audi-550hp or so
BMW-550hp or so
Benz-650hp or so
Cadillac-550hp or so
Chrysler-450hp or so
Ford-650hp or so
GM-650hp or so
Hyundai-429hp
Infiniit-420hp or so
Lexus-562hp or so
Lincoln-350hp or so

Glad to see realizing the last half decade actually happened.

bitkahuna

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first off, honda shouldn't be talking about what's coming. talk is cheap.
second, what they've SAID isn't that impressive, so hopefully they'll beat what they've stated by a lot.

SNiiP3R

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So, no more toys? They are serious this time?

TheDream

I wonder if this has that continuously variable VTEC (AVTEC) they patented in 2006. The current VTEC uses 2 cam profiles instead of continuously varying lift/duration. If so these engines will have a much flatter torque curve and feel much more powerful than what the numbers say.
I'm interested to see the new SH-AWD in action. I hope the batteries and electric motors won't weigh the car down so much that it has no difference in performance and economy.

GSteg

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I suppose this will be one of the better news for Honda hybrids. They desperately need this because their hybrid attempts so far has been disappointing at best.