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Old 04-03-12, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
yeah, well here is what i think are the facts:
1. Putting new 8 speed transmission only for RX F-Sport makes no sense (to invest money in new transmission and then only offer it on small number of vehicles).
2. New GR series engine replacement is coming soon (as in within 2 years or so) and hence Lexus might have decided lets wait for new engine before we introduce 8 speed (what we all speculated before, right?).

So 1 and 2 being true, quite possibly both ES and RX will get 8 speed while GS will wait for something new... it could be that it will be first introduced in next LS350?

And maybe they will wait for 8 speed in all ES/RX until GS/LS get it? Hence, offering it in RX F-Sport only.

But in general, limiting models like that will just give sales to competition, so it makes little sense. ES and RX would increase their sales with 8 speed vs competition. To hurt ES/RX sales so GS people wouldnt be embarrassed, doesnt make sense :-).
Sounds about right. I see the whole 2006 GS300/430 2007 GS350/460 scenario playing out again. Partly as a way to keep things fresh though not necessarily mid-cycle
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Old 04-03-12, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
yeah, well here is what i think are the facts:
1. Putting new 8 speed transmission only for RX F-Sport makes no sense (to invest money in new transmission and then only offer it on small number of vehicles).
2. New GR series engine replacement is coming soon (as in within 2 years or so) and hence Lexus might have decided lets wait for new engine before we introduce 8 speed (what we all speculated before, right?).

So 1 and 2 being true, quite possibly both ES and RX will get 8 speed while GS will wait for something new... it could be that it will be first introduced in next LS350?

And maybe they will wait for 8 speed in all ES/RX until GS/LS get it? Hence, offering it in RX F-Sport only.

But in general, limiting models like that will just give sales to competition, so it makes little sense. ES and RX would increase their sales with 8 speed vs competition. To hurt ES/RX sales so GS people wouldnt be embarrassed, doesnt make sense :-).
you are probably right, but that still doesn't make things less funny. given that the engine in the rx is the same and not a new engine, but it gets 8 speed while the gs gets 6 speed, and then likely bumped to 8 speed (or whatever) later
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Old 04-03-12, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
you are probably right, but that still doesn't make things less funny. given that the engine in the rx is the same and not a new engine, but it gets 8 speed while the gs gets 6 speed, and then likely bumped to 8 speed (or whatever) later
lets not mention that the 8 speed version of RX transmission does not exist now while I would guess that Lexus could use V8 8 speed in GS350 as well :-).

if indeed both RX and ES get 8 speeds by default, that means 2014 GS is going to get 8 speed for sure.
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Originally Posted by ydooby
No, that means the 8-speed auto is meant for mid-cycle updates as a sales booster, so both the GS and the ES should get it come their respective facelifts 2-3 years down the road.
wouldn't be surprised if the gs gets 8 speed next year

Originally Posted by rominl
awesome. so with them adding 8 speed to the rx fsport, i guess maybe next year we will see the 8 speed muted to the gs350?


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although it makes you wonder why are they offering it only on F-Sport model, it has to be part of some bigger plan, but I cant see it...
it may be just to justify a price bump and make more money. the rx f-sport will have the trim and the tranny to justify a few K on top. one thing will be interesting, will the rx f-sport with 8 speed end up getting similar mpg to the rx450h thus eating into hybrid sales?

if indeed both RX and ES get 8 speeds by default, that means 2014 GS is going to get 8 speed for sure.
2014 is next year, right?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
wouldn't be surprised if the gs gets 8 speed next year







it may be just to justify a price bump and make more money. the rx f-sport will have the trim and the tranny to justify a few K on top. one thing will be interesting, will the rx f-sport with 8 speed end up getting similar mpg to the rx450h thus eating into hybrid sales?



2014 is next year, right?
tough luck with 8 speed magically getting 50% better mpg, like hybrid :-).

Maybe 2 MPG extra on the highway if it is all new transmission with other advancements as well. It is not like current 6 speed doesnt have long 6th gear. Better purpose might be one extra gear between 1 and 5 that will add to the performance, responsiveness during mid-range acceleration.
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VERY VERY nice. I'll be in the market for an SUV in 3 years. Will it be a new design by then? I always like the RX.
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Originally Posted by doublehh03
VERY VERY nice. I'll be in the market for an SUV in 3 years. Will it be a new design by then? I always like the RX.
its likely a 2015 model in late 2014 I'd imagine
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Originally Posted by doublehh03
VERY VERY nice. I'll be in the market for an SUV in 3 years. Will it be a new design by then? I always like the RX.
3 years is a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG. You can get a 2013 and enjoy it for 3 years then get the 4th Gen RX.

The 8-speed may get extra 2-3 highway mpg with the tall 6-8 gears and no where near the 450h mpg but it will get trillions bragging rights.
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2013 Lexus RX 350 F SPORT Makes North American Debut at New York International Auto Show

• Features Eight-Speed Automatic Transmission with Paddle Shifters
• Dynamic Handling with F SPORT Suspension
• Highlighted with Signature Lexus Spindle Grille and Aggressive Sport Bumper












NEW YORK, April 4, 2012 –Making its North American debut at the 2012 New York International Auto Show, Lexus today revealed the all-new 2013 RX 350 F SPORT.

Available in All-Wheel Drive (AWD), the RX 350 F SPORT features an eight-speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters, F SPORT-tuned suspension, unique sport front bumper and mesh grille, 19-inch split five-spoke wheels in a Dark Graphite finish, and exclusive interior enhancements.

“The RX 350 F SPORT challenges pre-conceived notions about luxury crossover utility vehicles,” said Mark Templin, Lexus group vice president and general manager. “RX F SPORT is not just an appearance package, but a full-fledged performance package.”

Engine/Transmission/Drivetrain/Performance
The RX 350 F SPORT teams a 3.5-liter V6 engine with an eight-speed Electronically Controlled Transmission with intelligence (ECT-i) for an output of 270 horsepower at 6,200 rpm. Dual Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i) is used to control both intake and exhaust camshafts independently; optimizing engine performance at many speeds and loads.

The RX 350 F SPORT’s eight-speed automatic transmission has paddle shifters as standard equipment. It yields quick shifting response with help from miniature high-flow linear solenoids that allow more precise clutch operation. The torque converter uses a low-speed lockup damper to enable lock-up from first to eighth gear to help improve the fuel economy.

The RX 350 F SPORT model features an electronically controlled Active Torque Control AWD system. Active Torque Control AWD uses an electronically controlled coupling ahead of the rear differential to vary torque distribution anywhere from 100:0 to 50:50 front to rear, depending on driving dynamics and road conditions. When accelerating, or starting off on a low-grip surface, torque is quickly provided to all four wheels. At steady speeds, torque is sent only to the front wheels, enhancing fuel efficiency. The model is expected to earn EPA ratings of 19 mpg city, 25 mpg highway, 21 mpg combined.

Chassis/Body/Suspension/Brakes/Tires
The F SPORT suspension provides firmer shocks and springs for a more engaging driving experience. A unique lateral performance damper system absorbs and minimizes body vibrations, resulting in a more linear steering feel and enhanced ride comfort. In lieu of conventional fixed bracing, this system features a front performance damper and a rear damper connecting the left and right sides of the rear structural frame. The eight-speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters, allows for more driver input, while increasing fuel efficiency.

VDIM handling technology is standard on the RX 350 AWD F SPORT. VDIM anticipates loss of vehicle control and governs all of the vehicle’s dynamic handling systems – the Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), Brake Assist (BA), Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) and Traction Control (TRAC) – with the electronic throttle control system. The system employs them collectively and seamlessly to help make corrections while allowing higher dynamic capability.

The RX F SPORT will be exclusively equipped with 19-inch split five-spoke wheels with 235/55R/19 tires.

A New, Sporty Appearance Inside and Out
The new distinctive and contemporary front of the RX F SPORT is highlighted with Lexus’ signature spindle grille and a bolder sport bumper, featuring an F SPORT exclusive mesh design. The upper edge of the grille is set lower than the upper edge of the headlamp assembly to establish a more aggressive look. The standard LED daytime running lights and combination rear lamps reflect the “L” design motif. Fog lamps are integrated into the sculpted lower front bumper fascia.

Pronounced front fenders flow into the doors, and integrated rear fender flares neatly sweep around to pull together the taut rear corners of the vehicle. The lower body emphasizes the standard 19-inch wheels. Distinctive F SPORT exterior badging adorns the sporty exterior.

The RX F SPORT features a unique interior design treatment with perforated black leather-trimmed seats with white perforation holes. White contrast stitching accentuates the seats, center console and door armrests. A new Ebony Bird’s Eye Maple trim adds a touch of sporty elegance. A black headliner, a perforated leather-wrapped steering wheel showcasing the “F” logo, and aluminum pedals complete the interior enhancements.

Multimedia Capabilities
The RX F SPORT can accommodate a variety of music sources, providing auxiliary and USB inputs, Bluetooth® Audio wireless connectivity and a standard integrated SiriusXM Satellite Radio receiver (90-day trial subscription included). Standard voice recognition and Bluetooth® technology allow phone calls to be made and received once paired with a compatible smartphone. When an iPod® is attached via the USB port, information such as artist name, track and album can be displayed on the available navigation or headunit, while the iPod can be controlled through the audio system. The large center console storage box easily accommodates a variety of electronic devices while keeping wires out of sight.

The available next generation Hard Disc Drive (HDD) navigation system eliminates the need for DVD map discs and offers a unique voice recognition system, which accepts casual-language inputs on certain functions. The system includes Lexus Enform® with Safety Connect® (includes complimentary one-year trial subscription), Voice Command casual-language voice recognition, HD Radio with iTunes tagging and automatic Bluetooth phonebook download. The system is controlled by a new, second generation Remote Touch Interface (RTI) that is more intuitive in its design and use. The Remote Touch allows the user to operate the climate, audio, phone controls, navigation system and more. The screen menus are selected with a controller conveniently located within easy reach on the center console. Remote Touch also reduces eye movement and helps users operate functions with reduced effort and distraction.

Lexus Enform® with Safety Connect® now comes with the next-generation Lexus Enform® Application Suite, the system that leverages the customers’ mobile phone technology to provide a new level of connectivity and information management. A complimentary one-year trial subscription is included. Users can conduct local searches through Bing, or utilize voice-enabled apps to make restaurant reservations through OpenTable, get movie tickets via MovieTickets.com or tap into internet radio, including Pandora® or iHeartRadio.

Users will also appreciate the ability to check-in on Facebook places, and search for various business reviews including restaurants on Yelp. SiriusXM data services offer information on stocks, traffic, weather, sports and fuel prices. Enform® is supported on iPhone, Android and Blackberry. SiriusXM data services offer a complimentary one year trial subscription. Separate audio and data subscriptions are required.

The Lexus RX 350 F SPORT will arrive at dealerships this summer.
 
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no adjustable suspension? firmer ride might get old. mpg unchanged. but it's a nice option.
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Old 04-04-12, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
no adjustable suspension? firmer ride might get old. mpg unchanged. but it's a nice option.
performance dampers actually make ride nicer, like in CTh. MPG is up by 1 overall, as this is AWD model that was 20mpg.

But as I said before, acceleration will be nicer because you get extra gear between 0 and 100mph to better exploit the engine.
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wonder where the sport button is located
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So, the standard RX now gets the old hybrid wheels?
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
wonder where the sport button is located
It's located on the steering wheel:

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