Motortrend sport sedans comparo: Lexus GS Dominates
04-12-12, 05:33 PM
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Actually the 8AT added 1mpg to both city and highway MPG to the RX350 F-Sport even though it comes with 19" wheels standard versus 18" wheels on the regular RX350 AWD.
04-12-12, 06:37 PM
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indeed... we might see new motor, but it might bring a set of negatives, for instance turboed 3.0l V6 would introduce lag... performance wise, i dont think we will see better than this for base engine.
8AT wont do miracles... just like with RX F-Sport, it would increase MPG by 1 for highway and add a bit more power into the midrange due to another gear exploiting the engine better.
8AT wont do miracles... just like with RX F-Sport, it would increase MPG by 1 for highway and add a bit more power into the midrange due to another gear exploiting the engine better.
04-12-12, 07:52 PM
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Not so quick. There is something wrong with the styling of most Lexus vehicles. The GS could handle 20Xs better than the 5 series and I still wouldn't buy it. The front is too trendy (lacks class) and the rear is too plain. The 5 series will age better than the GS. Similar to how the 5 series of the late 90s/early 00s aged better than the 2nd gen GS.
04-12-12, 08:15 PM
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Not so quick. There is something wrong with the styling of most Lexus vehicles. The GS could handle 20Xs better than the 5 series and I still wouldn't buy it. The front is too trendy (lacks class) and the rear is too plain. The 5 series will age better than the GS. Similar to how the 5 series of the late 90s/early 00s aged better than the 2nd gen GS.
FWIW I think the 3GS has aged better than the E60 5 series, and the current IS has aged better than the E90 3 series.
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04-12-12, 09:29 PM
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I guess I'll be one of the first to say that Lexus does not NEED to bump power, especially not for the Base GS.
It is important to understand that Lexus had the right idea here. Keep the weight low and the power moderate so that everything is balanced, very much like the LFA that isn't high in horsepower but revs high and breaks records (Ring).
If the 4GS NEEDS to have more power like some of you say, where does it end? Does the 5GS need to EXCEED the 4GS in base power?
I know the new engine/drivetrain will be out but I doubt it will bump HP that much higher. I'd say 320 at the most but it will mainly be for high efficiency performance, look how well the 4GS already does? The only thing it lacked was MPG.
It is important to understand that Lexus had the right idea here. Keep the weight low and the power moderate so that everything is balanced, very much like the LFA that isn't high in horsepower but revs high and breaks records (Ring).
If the 4GS NEEDS to have more power like some of you say, where does it end? Does the 5GS need to EXCEED the 4GS in base power?
I know the new engine/drivetrain will be out but I doubt it will bump HP that much higher. I'd say 320 at the most but it will mainly be for high efficiency performance, look how well the 4GS already does? The only thing it lacked was MPG.
04-12-12, 09:39 PM
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04-12-12, 10:19 PM
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I guess I'll be one of the first to say that Lexus does not NEED to bump power, especially not for the Base GS.
It is important to understand that Lexus had the right idea here. Keep the weight low and the power moderate so that everything is balanced, very much like the LFA that isn't high in horsepower but revs high and breaks records (Ring).
If the 4GS NEEDS to have more power like some of you say, where does it end? Does the 5GS need to EXCEED the 4GS in base power?
I know the new engine/drivetrain will be out but I doubt it will bump HP that much higher. I'd say 320 at the most but it will mainly be for high efficiency performance, look how well the 4GS already does? The only thing it lacked was MPG.
It is important to understand that Lexus had the right idea here. Keep the weight low and the power moderate so that everything is balanced, very much like the LFA that isn't high in horsepower but revs high and breaks records (Ring).
If the 4GS NEEDS to have more power like some of you say, where does it end? Does the 5GS need to EXCEED the 4GS in base power?
I know the new engine/drivetrain will be out but I doubt it will bump HP that much higher. I'd say 320 at the most but it will mainly be for high efficiency performance, look how well the 4GS already does? The only thing it lacked was MPG.
For the price of a base 300hp V-6 GS you get the new 4 cylinder turbo 5 series.
Lexus should debut a GS 300h if possible or GS 250 or something to be a base entry level model .
04-12-12, 10:31 PM
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We have seen some other magazines suddenly changed their usual priority in judging these comparisons when they found out the Lexus model handles better, and gave the win to the competitor because it's "the better daily driver"
, for example ......So props to MT, at least these particular group of editor/tester
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04-12-12, 10:57 PM
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I didn't expect it either, but not because I doubt Lexus could build a better driver's car than the competition, but because I didn't expect one of these magazines can allow themselves to admit that Lexus can win a comparison using their usual preferred criteria - the best handling and the best car to drive.
We have seen some other magazines suddenly changed their usual priority in judging these comparisons when they found out the Lexus model handles better, and gave the win to the competitor because it's "the better daily driver" , for example ......
So props to MT, at least these particular group of editor/tester
We have seen some other magazines suddenly changed their usual priority in judging these comparisons when they found out the Lexus model handles better, and gave the win to the competitor because it's "the better daily driver"
, for example ......So props to MT, at least these particular group of editor/tester
04-12-12, 11:38 PM
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04-13-12, 12:56 AM
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Not so quick. There is something wrong with the styling of most Lexus vehicles. The GS could handle 20Xs better than the 5 series and I still wouldn't buy it. The front is too trendy (lacks class) and the rear is too plain. The 5 series will age better than the GS. Similar to how the 5 series of the late 90s/early 00s aged better than the 2nd gen GS.
On the contrary, the new 5 series is too staid and looks too much like the 7 series it borrowed its platform from. I still like a bit more aggressiveness and distinctiveness in my cars( ie the new GS).
04-13-12, 02:18 AM
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