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Old 12-19-12, 11:46 AM
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Not feeling that rear end, including bumper. Reminds me too much of the old Sienna.



And did they kill the LED taillights?
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Old 12-20-12, 10:08 AM
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I am assuming they want to stop some cross-shopping with the Highlander by dropping the V-6 and 7 seat option. The terra cotta pics posted are pretty nice.

Going to sell well. Ryan posted a graph comparing pricing and it seemed to be 2k less than the Escape and 4k less than the CR-V with similar equipment.

And wow torque-vectoring!!
 
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How in the world does the Rav4 rear look similar to the Sienna? They're both red...
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Originally Posted by T0ked
How in the world does the Rav4 rear look similar to the Sienna? They're both red...
it doesnt... nor it has anything to do with Camry at all... but people want really bad to put Toyota into a box :-)
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Old 12-20-12, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
it doesnt... nor it has anything to do with Camry at all... but people want really bad to put Toyota into a box :-)
Yeah I know. But many times when these they-look-the-same picture comparos get posted, I can at least see SOME similarities if I squint and close one eye, but this one isn't even close...
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In our slalom test the RAV's stability control system stepped in only when it was really needed, leaving more freedom to drive the SUV between the cones than we experience in most Toyota products. It weaved between them at 62.7 mph, which is better than nearly everything else in the class including the renowned-for-its-handling 2013 Mazda CX-5. The RAV circled the skid pad at 0.78g, which is average for the class.

There's more to handling than what can be surmised driving around cones in a parking lot, however. And though the little Toyota might exhibit strong numbers, you'll make a small compromise in ride quality. This is at least partially due to the 18-inch wheels and tires, though Mazda's CX-5 uses 19s and produces no better handling numbers.
So Rav4 with 18" handles better than CX5 with 19"... Isnt that nice? :-)
In Europe, Rav4 was always known as Sporty SUV while in US it always had that downmarket feeling.

http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/rav4/2013/road-test1.html
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Originally Posted by spwolf
So Rav4 with 18" handles better than CX5 with 19"... Isnt that nice? :-)
In Europe, Rav4 was always known as Sporty SUV while in US it always had that downmarket feeling.

http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/rav4/2013/road-test1.html
It's nice, except that the last-gen RAV4 handled even better, having posted a slalom speed of 63.0mph with just 17" wheels.
http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/rav4/2...est-specs.html

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Originally Posted by ydooby
It's nice, except that the last-gen RAV4 handled even better, having posted a slalom speed of 63.0mph with just 17" wheels.
http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/rav4/2...est-specs.html
The 2011 test numbers you linked were a Front Wheel Drive model, much lighter.

2013 is using an All Wheel Drive model
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Originally Posted by pbm317
The 2011 test numbers you linked were a Front Wheel Drive model, much lighter.

2013 is using an All Wheel Drive model
True that.
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Originally Posted by ydooby
It's nice, except that the last-gen RAV4 handled even better, having posted a slalom speed of 63.0mph with just 17" wheels.
http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/rav4/2...est-specs.html
yeah, Rav4 was always a handler, as I said... this new one is high end version with AWD so its heavier and plus it has all weather suv tires, as usual (old was seemingly base model).

Handling, Braking comments are better than before, as well as noise as WOT is much lower.

What I find good is off road comments, they indicate much better suspension. Old Rav4 was sporty and hard with little damping and strange steering over rocks, so it felt really weird and strange and unsecure.
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I am really liking the Rav4 but my few quibbles would be enough to keep me from buying one:

1) I do not care for the grille
2) I really dislike the massive open gap on the passenger side of the dash
3) The 4cyl is not strong enough for me and judging by that edmunds article, the MPG is not great. Somehow, in my ~10 year old GS, I can get 26-27MPG on the highway in a stretch, so a new car needs to be able to surpass those numbers. Our 2006 4Runner V6 can do 24-25mpg on the highway as well.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
in looking at this more, it's almost like a tall camry wagon, only better looking.
Aren't most cuvs just basically that???

(Look at the X1)
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X1 is based on a RWD platform though.
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Old 01-23-13, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
I am really liking the Rav4 but my few quibbles would be enough to keep me from buying one:

1) I do not care for the grille
2) I really dislike the massive open gap on the passenger side of the dash
3) The 4cyl is not strong enough for me and judging by that edmunds article, the MPG is not great. Somehow, in my ~10 year old GS, I can get 26-27MPG on the highway in a stretch, so a new car needs to be able to surpass those numbers. Our 2006 4Runner V6 can do 24-25mpg on the highway as well.
rav4 with 4AT got decent numbers, this one should get better... Edmunds test was done in Winter, while other cars in summer. At least thats what I think it is.
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Originally Posted by T0ked
How in the world does the Rav4 rear look similar to the Sienna? They're both red...
I guess you're either 1) not familiar with the present RAV4 and/or 2) not looking at the rear intently.

#1 - The unpainted lower bumper is new. It wasn't in the present generation

#2 - Having said #1 - the old Sienna design similarities are pretty apparent in the lower bumper section, but now without the spare tire in the rear (as in the present generation) it is a large flat monolithic design in the rear, very similar to a minivan back. Hence, my insinuation that they look similar.
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