Mercedes introduces 2013 G-Class, including 612-HP G65 AMG
04-11-12, 06:00 PM
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612 HP in a Wrangler-esque box on wheels? Really? I know MB doesn't build to meet "needs" but who is really going to use such a thing? On one hand it's designed for off road capability and yet is given the power of a race car.
I guess they're getting it out of their system before our oppressive government says no more! (With new CAFE standards).
I guess they're getting it out of their system before our oppressive government says no more! (With new CAFE standards).
04-11-12, 11:37 PM
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612 HP in what looks like a tissue box. I think I will pass. My friends mother drives a G55 AMG and although its a Benz and it relatively quick, it as ugly as sin
04-12-12, 09:58 AM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/03/n...-sale-tops-70/
I applaud the government for waking these auto companies the **** up in regards to MPG and they CONTINUE to produce amazing high hp cars. You can have both, its not one or the other.
04-12-12, 02:33 PM
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Maybe you should stop ranting about the Government when its unfounded. There was just a thread saying we have 70 cars over 500hp. Ten years ago it was 2.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/03/n...-sale-tops-70/
I applaud the government for waking these auto companies the **** up in regards to MPG and they CONTINUE to produce amazing high hp cars. You can have both, its not one or the other.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/03/n...-sale-tops-70/
I applaud the government for waking these auto companies the **** up in regards to MPG and they CONTINUE to produce amazing high hp cars. You can have both, its not one or the other.
Some countries will not even import American cars because our fuel economy is horrible
04-12-12, 02:37 PM
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Maybe you should stop ranting about the Government when its unfounded. There was just a thread saying we have 70 cars over 500hp. Ten years ago it was 2.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/03/n...-sale-tops-70/
I applaud the government for waking these auto companies the **** up in regards to MPG and they CONTINUE to produce amazing high hp cars. You can have both, its not one or the other.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/03/n...-sale-tops-70/
I applaud the government for waking these auto companies the **** up in regards to MPG and they CONTINUE to produce amazing high hp cars. You can have both, its not one or the other.
In 2025, we will FOR SURE not have nearly this amount of these types of vehicles available even for those who can afford them. There may be exceptions in place for some, or very high guzzler taxes or what have you, but freedom of choice will be limited.
I don't mind the government making modest CAFE increases but doubling them in a relatively short period of time is not acting in practical terms. These lawmakers aren't even engineers and have no idea what it takes. The new CAFE standard will be 55 MPG average (for a whole lineup!). The Prius doesn't even achieve this and it is the poster child for fuel efficiency. So we'll have automakers forced to move to electrics that nobody wants. Unless hydrogen or something else pans out.
And some are unaware that there are many coal plants shutting down by 2015 due to many new regulations. So less electricity on the grid while pushing for millions of electric cars. Seems like a great plan.
I'm all for great efficiency. I'm the one driving a 40 MPG sub-compact. But to reach a 55 MPG CAFE standard is going to cost consumers big. Look no further that $40K Volts, $40K Focus Electric's, or $35K Leafs. Compact cars that only the very affluent can afford. And for the latter two, an expensive car leaves you stranded in less than 100 miles. No thanks.
04-12-12, 05:13 PM
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^ That does sound insane. I better save up my pennies so that in 2025 I can afford to pay $400 to fill up my 2013 G63 that will crush any Leaf-like vehicle that gets in my way.
04-12-12, 10:21 PM
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So shouldn't we be happy?
That's kinda my point. We have 70 beasts available because the new CAFE standards aren't in place. By 2025, companies must DOUBLE their corporate CAFE numbers. Just 12 years from now (a very quick two to three model cycles).
In 2025, we will FOR SURE not have nearly this amount of these types of vehicles available even for those who can afford them. There may be exceptions in place for some, or very high guzzler taxes or what have you, but freedom of choice will be limited.
I don't mind the government making modest CAFE increases but doubling them in a relatively short period of time is not acting in practical terms. These lawmakers aren't even engineers and have no idea what it takes. The new CAFE standard will be 55 MPG average (for a whole lineup!). The Prius doesn't even achieve this and it is the poster child for fuel efficiency. So we'll have automakers forced to move to electrics that nobody wants. Unless hydrogen or something else pans out.
And some are unaware that there are many coal plants shutting down by 2015 due to many new regulations. So less electricity on the grid while pushing for millions of electric cars. Seems like a great plan.
I'm all for great efficiency. I'm the one driving a 40 MPG sub-compact. But to reach a 55 MPG CAFE standard is going to cost consumers big. Look no further that $40K Volts, $40K Focus Electric's, or $35K Leafs. Compact cars that only the very affluent can afford. And for the latter two, an expensive car leaves you stranded in less than 100 miles. No thanks.
In 2025, we will FOR SURE not have nearly this amount of these types of vehicles available even for those who can afford them. There may be exceptions in place for some, or very high guzzler taxes or what have you, but freedom of choice will be limited.
I don't mind the government making modest CAFE increases but doubling them in a relatively short period of time is not acting in practical terms. These lawmakers aren't even engineers and have no idea what it takes. The new CAFE standard will be 55 MPG average (for a whole lineup!). The Prius doesn't even achieve this and it is the poster child for fuel efficiency. So we'll have automakers forced to move to electrics that nobody wants. Unless hydrogen or something else pans out.
And some are unaware that there are many coal plants shutting down by 2015 due to many new regulations. So less electricity on the grid while pushing for millions of electric cars. Seems like a great plan.
I'm all for great efficiency. I'm the one driving a 40 MPG sub-compact. But to reach a 55 MPG CAFE standard is going to cost consumers big. Look no further that $40K Volts, $40K Focus Electric's, or $35K Leafs. Compact cars that only the very affluent can afford. And for the latter two, an expensive car leaves you stranded in less than 100 miles. No thanks.
Prices have not skyrocketed either as some people stated, the cars are priced similar to less efficient past models.
If people are going to want to continue to drive at will like we do today they got two ****ing choices
1. Get wealthy so gas prices will be a joke
2. Get a more efficient car
B/C gas prices will never go back down to $1 a gallon.
I wish it was different. To think the youth won't enjoy cars like we did or will have to make tough choices in regards to driving. But you know we will find a way. In the 1970s the car was proclaimed dead and here we are in 2012 with the best cars ever and the most powerful cars ever along with the more efficient cars ever.
I'm down there often, we need to meet.
Sky is falling!!
04-13-12, 12:46 AM
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I see a lot of hybrid, electric, and sports cars with forced induction in our future. Unlike what happened in the 70s with the gas crisis , I don't think manufacturers will kill all of the power. Most like we will be at smaller displacements but with similar power. And if that doesn't work we may finally see some cars that don't weigh in at close to two tons
04-13-12, 06:31 AM
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This thing represents everything I can't stand. It's over the top, it's abnoxious, it's not functional, and it uses a lot of gas doing it. Buy a damn Ferrari if you have the money to show off.