Review: 2012 Toyota Camry SE V6
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Problem with this review is that it is factually wrong - Camry SE V6 beats Sonata and anything out there in every objective test, be it acceleration, passing speed, braking, cornering, slalom, real life mpg etc, etc.
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The Camry...crapped on my internet heros, crapped on many times by the media but the Camry continues to crap on the competition ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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I think Toyota knows its not a Lexus cause it ain't a Lexus. Its built to a price point, it offers 95% of the people out there everything they need. If anyone thinks b/c a car has more "style" but ultimately drives the same or worse, with worse or the same quality, is somehow the amazing win, well, they are all in the same class. Subway and Blimpie, same processed meat.
I do have to say compared to the competition the Camry is the least stylish but a Camry owner ain't fooling themselves and ain't trying to fool others into thinking they are driving something it is not. They are comfortable knowing its a rock solid Camry and that is it
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I do have to say compared to the competition the Camry is the least stylish but a Camry owner ain't fooling themselves and ain't trying to fool others into thinking they are driving something it is not. They are comfortable knowing its a rock solid Camry and that is it
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The Camry is a great car, and the current model still clicks a lot of boxes that potential buyers are looking for. However, there is strong competition from Hyundai, Kia, VW, among others, and it will only get stiffer with the introduction of the new Ford Fusion, Chevy Malibu, Chevy Impala, Nissan Altima, etc.
If you believe that sales momentum will carry a car forward, just look at the sales numbers for the Honda Accord. Sales have plummted as people have come to realize that teh Accord is dated in many ways. What used to be a class leader is now salpped to mid-pack with a bunch of other cars.
The Nissan Altima is still selling very well, and likley will get a significant boost with the new model that is more revamped then the route that Toyota took with the Camry. The Ford Fusion has the potential to knock off the Camry if it drives as good as it looks.
Remember, the Sonata and Kia Optima design are several years into their product cycle. There are new versions in the pipelines. The new Altima will be greatly revamped, the Ford Fusion looks nothing like the crap-box that Ford is currently putting out. The competition is coming up quickly, and while the Camry won't have anything to worry about for the next 6 months or so, watch this space for the sales impact come 18-24 months from now.
If you believe that sales momentum will carry a car forward, just look at the sales numbers for the Honda Accord. Sales have plummted as people have come to realize that teh Accord is dated in many ways. What used to be a class leader is now salpped to mid-pack with a bunch of other cars.
The Nissan Altima is still selling very well, and likley will get a significant boost with the new model that is more revamped then the route that Toyota took with the Camry. The Ford Fusion has the potential to knock off the Camry if it drives as good as it looks.
Remember, the Sonata and Kia Optima design are several years into their product cycle. There are new versions in the pipelines. The new Altima will be greatly revamped, the Ford Fusion looks nothing like the crap-box that Ford is currently putting out. The competition is coming up quickly, and while the Camry won't have anything to worry about for the next 6 months or so, watch this space for the sales impact come 18-24 months from now.
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I agree with the article the new body is a letdown. It has the following flaws: Roofline appears taller and boxier, it lost it's aggressive and modern squinty headlights, added the harsh and strange lobster claw taillights, and leaves the tailpipe tips hanging in black space. At least from an SE standpoint, these are all non-sporty features that the last Camry did not possess. The graphite 18" rim option also looks silly and like they were styled by a teen.
I'm hoping the facelift addresses most of these things.
I'm hoping the facelift addresses most of these things.
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I remember those comparo's with Sonata, Camry, and Passat. Camry spanked each competitor in engine 4 cylinder, turbo4/V6, and hybrid/diesel guise for performance, fuel economy etc.., while Sonata consistently placed last. yet Passat kept "winning" based on drive dynamic ![Egads!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/pat.gif)
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it is hard not to like FR-S... I hope that designer oversees all of the future Toyota designs.
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Even though I am a bit let down by the current generation Camry, and pretty clearly see it's flaws, I think this review was rather over the top.
Go sit inside of a Sonata and tell me if it's any better. Hyundai builds interiors with squishy plastic everywhere and overwrought lines throughout. Camry uses harder plastics and more simple lines. Take your pick.
Go sit inside of a Sonata and tell me if it's any better. Hyundai builds interiors with squishy plastic everywhere and overwrought lines throughout. Camry uses harder plastics and more simple lines. Take your pick.
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