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Old 02-22-14 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
A friend of mine is 4-foot 9-inches tall.

She cannot buy a car with a trunk that swings upwards; she won't be able to reach and close it.

She ended up getting a Mini Cooper Clubman because of two swinging barn doors. Hey, it works for her...
The power lift gate option has become more common these days, making its way down the RAV4 and CX-5.

It wouldn't surprise me if the popularity of the power lift gate is killing off the remaining side swinging rear doors, too.
Old 02-22-14 | 03:20 PM
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Side hinged style makes for easy access to the roof rack with bikes or skis. Cargo pods also.
Quick to open and close for pets large enough to jump or for just loading cargo, no waiting for the
springs or arms or motors to hoist the hatch.
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The reason is the spare tire. The Land Cruiser Prado has a spare tire on the door in some trims, which is why the GX has a side hinged door.

I also really dislike it, and its one of the big reasons why I wouldn't buy a GX. My brother in law has an older Rav4 that he loves everything about except the door, he hates it.
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
The reason is the spare tire. The Land Cruiser Prado has a spare tire on the door in some trims, which is why the GX has a side hinged door.

I also really dislike it, and its one of the big reasons why I wouldn't buy a GX. My brother in law has an older Rav4 that he loves everything about except the door, he hates it.
All the more reason to get rid of it. Lexus needs to differentiate it better. Let's face it, a large percentage of GX don't ever leave suburbia. Tailor it better to the market
Old 02-22-14 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
A friend of mine is 4-foot 9-inches tall.

She cannot buy a car with a trunk that swings upwards; she won't be able to reach and close it.

She ended up getting a Mini Cooper Clubman because of two swinging barn doors. Hey, it works for her...
Fun size!!!!'
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Originally Posted by LexFather
Fun size!!!!'
like your minion !
Old 02-23-14 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Nice, I have two Germans myself a 1 year old 83lb girl and 11 month old 107lb boy.
Did you forget some decimal places there? My 6-year-old is positively huge for his age (99th percentile, pushing 90lbs) and is still 20lbs shy of your 11 month old.
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Not to go off topic too much (but shows an SUV is needed for my monsters)

Originally Posted by geko29
Did you forget some decimal places there? My 6-year-old is positively huge for his age (99th percentile, pushing 90lbs) and is still 20lbs shy of your 11 month old.
Sadly no

This was right around Spring of 2013



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Originally Posted by DogFriendl
I'm currently in the market for a new(er) car. Specifically, a large SUV that can accommodate two, large German Shepherds. My Toyota Sequoia has been absolutely spectacular, but the one great flaw is the rear "hatch" opening.

Aside from the dogs sneaking out underneath while I open the rear door, it's getting more and more difficult to close the thing. Maybe it's just the hydraulics getting older. But it just seems that it would be less expensive to put cargo doors on the rear of vehicles.

Right now, the vehicle I'm most interested in purchasing is the Lexus GX - specifically because of that big cargo door in the rear.

Why is this not an option on all vehicles? Chevy stopped making them on the Suburban - not that I would buy ANYTHING from "Government motors" ever again, but, the barn doors were the Suburban's most redeeming quality. Well, that and the space. I loved my 92 'Burb.
Not an SUV, but the recently debuted next gen Ford Transit Connect Wagon can be had with optional barn doors in the rear, and the lower load floor height could be easier for the dogs to get in and out.
Old 02-23-14 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Not an SUV, but the recently debuted next gen Ford Transit Connect Wagon can be had with optional barn doors in the rear, and the lower load floor height could be easier for the dogs to get in and out.
But then you'd look like some sort of weirdo Parisian plumber driving around in one of those.
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I have a Ford Transit Connect as a business vehicle. I rarely drive it, our employees do but I have obviously driven it multiple times. It's a great little work vehicle, but it's not anything I would ever consider buying with seats as a non-commercial vehicle. It's very unrefined, driving position is work vehicle/bus like.

I know they sell them with seats as a family vehicle, but I can't imagine why someone would buy one for that.
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
I have a Ford Transit Connect as a business vehicle. I rarely drive it, our employees do but I have obviously driven it multiple times. It's a great little work vehicle, but it's not anything I would ever consider buying with seats as a non-commercial vehicle. It's very unrefined, driving position is work vehicle/bus like.

I know they sell them with seats as a family vehicle, but I can't imagine why someone would buy one for that.
The current one, yes, I agree is very rough and unrefined, my parents have one for their small business delivery vehicle. This new gen about to hit dealers, has a much more passenger focus for the "wagon" versions and should be much more refined and suitable for personal use.
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
I have a Ford Transit Connect as a business vehicle. ... It's very unrefined, driving position is work vehicle/bus like.
new model looks like a totally different ball game.
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i can see why some people can take advantage of side barn door but given we have a gx, i can only see far more problems.

first the gx door swings on the wrong side. the way it is now on a parallel parking situation, with US spec setup, door will be on passenger side so you have to go to the traffic side to get in. bad idea. and yes, let alone if there is some car close by behind you, then you have big trouble opening the door

and if the car is not on a completely flat surface? the door can start swinging close again, argh big trouble. yes there is the locking mechanism, but it's not the easiest either.

and imagine if you have a shopping cart, you get to the car and now you need to maneuver the cart around back and forth to open the door. not the best job at all.

with swing up tailgate, for those with height problem, i believe some of them has adjustments on "heights" so the tailgate actually doesn't swing up all the way. that should solve the problem for most (of course if you 4' 9" then it might be a different story).

overall, i like the gx a lot, but both my wife and i can't find ourselves to appreciate the rear side swing door much
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
The reason is the spare tire. The Land Cruiser Prado has a spare tire on the door in some trims, which is why the GX has a side hinged door.

I also really dislike it, and its one of the big reasons why I wouldn't buy a GX. My brother in law has an older Rav4 that he loves everything about except the door, he hates it.
I love my GX and the barn door. Only problem is it opens the wrong way. If Lexus made the barn door open to the left it would be perfect.
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