Acura's "beak" is here to stay
#16
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if the beak is here to stay...then the sales will continue to leave. I have so many friends that chose not to buy an Acura when the new 4th gen TL was released. The 3rd Gen TL was a fantastic looking car...you see TONS of them on the road....4th gen...not so much...it's actually pretty rare I think....
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#22
Lexus Test Driver
This is another very clear example of what has gotten Acura/Honda in trouble in the first place. They do not have the ability to listen to customers (and the masses) and act accordingly. It's the ultimate form or arrogance or ignorance (or both). It's like if you took a college course test and got a "D" and then actually believed it was an "A." Repeat the fantasy for a few years and eventually you flunk out of school. This is why I have absolutely no faith the next Accord or next anything will be any better. The company thinking has not changed one bit.
#23
They've made the grille much better looking over the past 3 years, but this kind of talk about resisting feedback and "consumers getting used to it" is not sending the right message for a company that wants to earn business.
The proper way to say it is "better integrating the design of the grille through customer feedback."
The proper way to say it is "better integrating the design of the grille through customer feedback."
#24
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I was at Acura dealer a few weeks back checking out the new RDX and was looking around. I had a long discussion with the GSM about the "Beak".. but they continue to push these cars hard. I said, Nah, I rather drive a Hyundai Genesis "If" I ever steer away from Lexus.. LOL
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if the beak is here to stay...then the sales will continue to leave. I have so many friends that chose not to buy an Acura when the new 4th gen TL was released. The 3rd Gen TL was a fantastic looking car...you see TONS of them on the road....4th gen...not so much...it's actually pretty rare I think....
#26
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Acura beak is fail no matter what kind of spin or damage control employed in order to defend this ugly-*** beak.
For instance, I was comparing the KB2.
versus
The difference of the front grille alone is so huge (like the difference between and )
If Acura continues to insist on this beak, then expect sales to continue on stagnation or downturn.......
For instance, I was comparing the KB2.
versus
The difference of the front grille alone is so huge (like the difference between and )
If Acura continues to insist on this beak, then expect sales to continue on stagnation or downturn.......
#27
Lexus Champion
Acura beak is fail no matter what kind of spin or damage control employed in order to defend this ugly-*** beak.
For instance, I was comparing the KB2.
versus
The difference of the front grille alone is so huge (like the difference between and )
If Acura continues to insist on this beak, then expect sales to continue on stagnation or downturn.......
EDIT:
Haha interestingly, there maybe...............*some* acceptable iterations of the Acura beak that might be a pass for me.
One would be the one used in the Acura CSX (which is basically a Canadian Civic FD2).
With that said, if Acura still wants to use the 'beak', then at the very least, please, at least make it look decent enough (at the very least or bare minimum). Hopefully, the ones used in the latest RDX seem to be good enough.
We'll see.......
For instance, I was comparing the KB2.
versus
The difference of the front grille alone is so huge (like the difference between and )
If Acura continues to insist on this beak, then expect sales to continue on stagnation or downturn.......
EDIT:
Haha interestingly, there maybe...............*some* acceptable iterations of the Acura beak that might be a pass for me.
One would be the one used in the Acura CSX (which is basically a Canadian Civic FD2).
With that said, if Acura still wants to use the 'beak', then at the very least, please, at least make it look decent enough (at the very least or bare minimum). Hopefully, the ones used in the latest RDX seem to be good enough.
We'll see.......
#28
Lexus Champion
Acura is just so far behind period. Their build quality isn't actually as good as some may think. The interior quality of the leather is TERRIBLE. All of my friends with 3rd Gen Acura TLs (the one pervious to the current ugly model), all of them, the leather is falling apart. The side bolsters are starting to show a lot of wear. The perforation in the seats aren't even perforated anymore because they've been so worn. Next time I'm I see my friends, i'll take pics of how bad their driver seat is compared to my IS F. The build quality is suffering along with their designs and sales.
Yeah...who knows what those guys are thinking....
Yeah...who knows what those guys are thinking....
#29
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if the beak is here to stay...then the sales will continue to leave. I have so many friends that chose not to buy an Acura when the new 4th gen TL was released. The 3rd Gen TL was a fantastic looking car...you see TONS of them on the road....4th gen...not so much...it's actually pretty rare I think....
I agree!
The 3rd Gen TL was a great looking car.
The 4th Gen TL is still ugly with the toning down and sales have been bad.
I feel the beak looks ok on the SUV's.