Fourth gen (2016) Toyota Prius
#377
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from the video...
"the center console looks like a storm trooper's cod piece."
haha
"the center console looks like a storm trooper's cod piece."
haha
#378
Having finally spent some time in Prius 4G, gotta say that driving position is perfect. Big change from Prius and pretty much most if not all of Toyota's of past.
Thats good news for all future Toyota owners since better driving position was one of the main things of new TNGA platform and is really a big difference from before. Lexus vehicles always had pretty comfy drivers seat, but Toyota's almost never did due to focus on back seat space. With new platform, I could position myself perfectly in drivers seat and yet still sit behind myself without hitting anything - unlike in my Lexus IS for instance where there isnt enough space in the back or in new Ioniq where not only drivers position was not good enough but also I could not fit my knees or head in the back.
Thats good news for all future Toyota owners since better driving position was one of the main things of new TNGA platform and is really a big difference from before. Lexus vehicles always had pretty comfy drivers seat, but Toyota's almost never did due to focus on back seat space. With new platform, I could position myself perfectly in drivers seat and yet still sit behind myself without hitting anything - unlike in my Lexus IS for instance where there isnt enough space in the back or in new Ioniq where not only drivers position was not good enough but also I could not fit my knees or head in the back.
#380
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it's hard to imagine what the designers were thinking. i know aerodynamic efficiency is very very important, but man did it have to end up like this?
#381
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from the video...
2016 Toyota Prius - Review and Road Test - YouTube
"the center console looks like a storm trooper's cod piece."
haha
2016 Toyota Prius - Review and Road Test - YouTube
"the center console looks like a storm trooper's cod piece."
haha
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn gee, another obvious Prius hater.....why is he bothering himself by doing a "subjective" review?
Last edited by bagwell; 04-11-16 at 08:05 AM.
#382
They did not do it for aero, they did it to make it stand out. It is not hard concept to grasp.
#383
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oh it stands out all right. i also saw one in real life... almost barfed.
#385
Toyota Recalling 2016 And 2017 Prius For Parking Brake Failure
Toyota Motor North America is conducting a safety campaign that concerns certain 2016 and 2017 model year Prius models.
According to the automaker, there are approximately 92,000 units in which the parking brakes could become inoperative.
"If this occurs and the driver exits the vehicle while the transmission is in a gear other than 'Park' while the ignition is on, the vehicle could roll away, increasing the risk of a crash", as the car company writes in the short press release.
The car manufacturer will start notifying all known owners of the involved vehicles from November, by first class mail and, without mentioning when the affected 2016-2017 Toyota Prius were assembled, states that its dealers will "add clips on the top of the brake cable dust boots to prevent the cable from becoming inoperative", free of charge.
In order to find out if their cars are involved in this new safety campaign, Toyota recommends owners to check their vehicles' status by visiting its official website and entering the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). For any additional questions owners might have on this recall, they can contact Toyota's customer service center at 1-800-331-4331.
According to the automaker, there are approximately 92,000 units in which the parking brakes could become inoperative.
"If this occurs and the driver exits the vehicle while the transmission is in a gear other than 'Park' while the ignition is on, the vehicle could roll away, increasing the risk of a crash", as the car company writes in the short press release.
The car manufacturer will start notifying all known owners of the involved vehicles from November, by first class mail and, without mentioning when the affected 2016-2017 Toyota Prius were assembled, states that its dealers will "add clips on the top of the brake cable dust boots to prevent the cable from becoming inoperative", free of charge.
In order to find out if their cars are involved in this new safety campaign, Toyota recommends owners to check their vehicles' status by visiting its official website and entering the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). For any additional questions owners might have on this recall, they can contact Toyota's customer service center at 1-800-331-4331.
#386
Toyota U.S. Buyers Shun Prius With Look Only Anime Fans Can Love
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...-fans-can-love
The Toyota Prius that Kendall Greuel bought six weeks ago does what he wanted, which is save money on his daily 100-mile round trip commute. Just one thing nags at the Oklahoman.“Sometimes I catch a glimpse of the car,” Greuel said, “and think it’s kind of ugly.”The 31-year-old IT worker from Muskogee has his finger on the latest vexation for Prius, the gas-electric hybrid that established Toyota Motor Corp. as an environmental leader two decades ago. At a time when American customers were already defecting from Prius because of cheap gasoline and a shift to trucks, the automaker pushed through a polarizing redesign -- one that’s been a hit at home in Japan but has failed to stem a sales slump in the U.S.“The Prius design is busy and overwrought,’’ said Eric Noble, who runs a product development consultancy called Carlab in Orange, California. “It never should have been allowed to happen.’’ In his view, the new Prius comes close to rivaling the Pontiac Aztek, a 2005-era sport utility vehicle often mentioned as one of the worst auto designs ever. The 93,083 Priuses sold in the U.S. through August was a 26 percent drop from the year-earlier period and put the model line on pace for its worst annual deliveries in five years.
The Prius is doing well in Japan, but not so good here...
- Polarizing redesign, a hit at home, fails to stop U.S. plunge
- Many customers like hybrid’s design and price, Toyota says
Design Defense
Bill Fay, Toyota’s head of U.S. sales, begs to differ with Prius’s critics. Toyota chose the design to attract mainstream customers as well as environmentalists, and plenty of people like it, he said in an interview. The vehicle’s greatest challenge is fighting the booming popularity of truck and SUV models spurred by cheap gasoline, Fay said.The situation in the U.S. is far different from Japan, where Prius has resumed its position as the top-selling model and gasoline costs the equivalent of about $4.50 a gallon. The potentially varying reactions to the design may reflect cultural differences.“Toyota opted for an ‘entertainment’ or ‘anime’ design that appeals to the Japanese market more than the U.S.,’’ said Geoff Wardle, head of graduate studies at the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California. Several design elements don’t support a common theme, he said, such as the neon-red lights zigzagging through 20-inch tail lamps that protrude from the side of the car like “flying buttresses.”Fay was among executives consulted on the design and said he’s confident the Prius line will do well. “All we can do is continue to reinvest and make the car as compelling as we can, because the market is going to change again,’’ he said. Two Prius models, the Prius C compact and Prius V wagon, haven’t been updated along with the liftback version.Reinforcements are on the way in the form of a refreshed plug-in model, newly dubbed the Prius Prime. With a 25-mile all-electric range that extends to 640 miles between refuelings, the Prius Prime will be priced $6,000 less than the plug-in hybrid Chevrolet Volt.‘Squandered Lead’
Yet even Prius Prime’s green credentials disappoint some environmentalists. Roland Hwang, transportation program director with the Natural Resources Defense Council, says Toyota is being too conservative. The plug-in’s electric range is less than half the Chevrolet Volt’s 53 miles. And while General Motors Co.’s all-electric Chevrolet Bolt arrives in showrooms this year, Toyota doesn’t offer a battery-only car in the U.S.“One can argue Toyota has squandered its lead in the green vehicle market,” Hwang said.The Prius’s rate of sales decline through August is almost double that of all hybrids lacking a plug, according to HybridCars.com. Demand has dropped even though Toyota updated the segment-leading Prius late last year with a double-wishbone suspension for better handling and added tech features such as lane-keeping assist. Only 42 percent of owners are opting for another Prius when they trade in their car, down from 64 percent in 2005, according to Edmunds.com.Customer Surveys
In surveys, customers complain about a cramped interior and paucity of storage space, said Alexander Edwards, president of Strategic Vision, a San Diego consumer research firm. In his firm’s overall measure of customer satisfaction, Prius ranks below the now-discontinued Chrysler 200. Among customers who shopped and rejected the Prius, 12 percent did so because of exterior styling, up from 8 percent with the prior model.Those figures help explain why Toyota has had to keep relatively high rebates on Prius even after the redesign. The company now offers rebates of $3,039 on each Prius, down only about $200 from the year-earlier period, said Jessica Caldwell, an Edmunds.com analyst.The competition won’t get any easier. Environmentalists will have unprecedented choices as the number of battery-only and hybrid plug-ins grows to 33 next year from three in 2011, according to the Consumer Federation of America. And the Prius now has gas-electric challengers within Toyota’s own lineup: the company has sold 28,862 RAV4 hybrids this year.For now, the Oklahoma Prius owner Greuel is satisfied that his new ride is averaging 56.1 miles per gallon, enough to save the equivalent of a second monthly car payment. But as for that design -- with curves in the hood converging into a small snout above an exaggerated grille opening -- his attitude toward it “depends on what mood I’m in.’’
#388
Same here I really like the Improvements they made in ride quality and other refinements with introduction of TNGA. Also folks seem to be getting 60 + mpg with relative ease. Also just like the 2017 Corolla Toyota has made Toyota safety sense standard on Prius models which is great ! I like the car but can't get past the overdone styling which is big put off.
#389
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And given the shape, a refresh likely won't be enough. It's too bad, the specs are great.